Tuesday, March 8, 2011

Radicalizing the "Homeland" UPDATED, August 11, 2016

They make a cute couple, huh? Terrorist fundraiser-turned-Homeland Security Commissar Pete King poses with an unidentified unlawful combatant.

(See the update at the end of the essay.)

"We're talking about a radicalization in this country that is linked to an overseas enemy," insists former IRA fundraiser and current head of the House Homeland Security Committee Pete King, in defense of his planned hearings into terrorist recruitment among American Muslims. A recent incident here in Idaho illustrates the connection King is talking about, albeit not in the way he intended.

Shortly before last Christmas, a resident of Twin Falls, Idaho was accosted by a stranger at a local Wal-Mart, who threatened to kill her. That threat was made credible by the fact that the snarling would-be assailant was armed and had killed people overseas during an armed conflict in the Middle East. 

The terrorized victim is a law-abiding American citizen whose only offense was to commit an act of peaceful commerce while wearing a head covering attesting to her Muslim faith. The aggressor, John C. Larsen, is a veteran of Washington's illegal war against Iraq. 

"My friends were killed by you!" Larsen reportedly screamed at the woman, who was accompanied by two small children. "I was blown up by you!" At some point in his tirade, Larsen also told the woman that she "didn't belong in the U.S." Leaving aside the fact that the target of his rancor was a U.S. citizen who had as much right to be here as he does, it apparently never occurred to Larsen that he and his gun-toting friends had no legitimate business being in Iraq.

Homegrown radical: Accused assailant John Larsen.

A 2006 National Intelligence Estimate acknowledged that the Iraq War increased the terrorist threat, rather than abating it. This is understandable, given the hatred and resentment that are the predictable by-products of a war of aggression against people who never harmed or threatened us in any way. 

People who are "blown up" by foreign invaders, and who see their friends and family slaughtered by them, often find themselves irresistibly tempted to kill others in retaliation -- at the price of their own lives, if necessary.

The episode in Twin Falls illustrates a  largely unrecognized form of potential "blowback" from the Regime's ongoing wars: The creation of a large population of traumatized combat veterans, some of whom are prone to criminal violence. Although at this point he has yet to be convicted of a criminal offense, Larsen was undeniably "radicalized" by his experience overseas, and it's difficult to describe his alleged actions as anything other than a form of terrorism -- albeit not of a kind Peter King would condescend to recognize.

The New York Daily News reports that King believes that American Muslims have a "misguided" belief "that they were victimized by a backlash of hatred after the Sept. 11 attacks," that the "hate they feel is imagined, and [that] Muslims need to put aside any fears they have towards official America and police." 

"I think a lot of that is a self-imposed fear they have, and that seemed to put them underground in a sense of non-cooperation," suggests King, who maintains that the purpose of his hearings is to entice reluctant Muslims to "cooperate."

"The Righteous rise with burning eyes, of hatred and ill-will; madmen fed on fear and lies -- to beat and burn and kill..."

A few weeks before King made those remarks, Muslims who assembled at a charity benefit in Yorba Linda, California experienced a remarkable group hallucination: Their imaginations, propelled by unreasonable, self-inflicted fear, conjured up a demented fantasy in which they had to walk through a vituperative mob that flung profane abuse at them and their children. 

 One feature common to this shared illusion was a speech by Villa Park Councilwoman Deborah Pauly, who boasted that she knows "quite a few Marines who would be happy to send these terrorists to an early meeting in paradise." Also playing a role in this common fever dream was Republican Congressman Ed Royce, who assailed the gathered Muslims -- not the mob, mind you, but the people quietly attending the charity event -- as "brutal, primitive, and barbaric," and expressed approval of King's impending hearings.

So strong was this entirely concocted persecution fantasy, in fact, that it somehow managed to impress itself on neutral recording media, leaving a video document of what certainly appears -- to those less perceptive than Rep. King, of course -- to be something perilously close to a pogrom.

This incident happened in Orange County, where a few years ago  the FBI targeted a local mosque for an infiltration/provocation op called "Operation Flex." The Bureau recruited a career criminal named Craig Monteilh, who (according to an affidavit he filed late last year) was instructed  "to advance an agenda that involved organizing terrorist activities, making reference to `jihad' (Holy War) and organizing terrorist plots and activities." Accordingly, under the pseudonym "Farouk," Monteilh hung around the mosque and tried to chat up anyone who would listen about the supposed merits of waging violent jihad. 

In the world as depicted by Pamela Geller and her ilk, "Farouk's" incitement to violence should have attracted an immediate and devoted following. Rather than attracting recruits, however, Monteilh repelled worshipers. Eventually, several members of the congregation were driven to obtain a restraining order to keep "Farouk" away from their house of worship. 

Two members of the mosque, alarmed over the possibility that an authentic radicalized Muslim was in their midst, approached Hussam Ayloush, director of the Southern California Chapter of the Committee on American Islamic Relations (CAIR). 

As everybody guided by Glenn Beck's prophetic wisdom knows, CAIR is no commonplace ethno-religious pressure group. As the infallible Frank Gaffney insists, CAIR is nothing less than the operational directorate for the North American Branch of the Global Jihad, and Ayloush -- covert Islamofascist that he is -- did the predictable thing: He called the FBI, with whom he had been cooperating since immediately following 9/11. J. Stephen Tidwell, assistant Director of the FBI's Los Angeles office, wasn't surprised to learn of "Farouk's" dealings, since he was the one cutting the provocateur's paychecks. 

This was precisely the kind of cooperation by Muslim religious and civic leaders that, according to King, doesn't exist. The FBI rewarded this patriotic action by framing one of the Muslims who had dropped a dime on their informant on entirely spurious charges (that were dropped last fall) in a transparent attempt to blackmail him into becoming a replacement asset. None of this was legitimate persecution, mind you -- merely the insubstantial musings of unreasonable minds freighted with entirely unfounded fears.

Murder victim Singh.

So potent are the unreasonable Muslim fears of persecution that they conjured into existence an entirely confected incident near Sacramento, California in which two elderly, turban-wearing men were gunned down, one of them fatally. Oh, but here's the technicality upon with King could triumphantly seize:  Neither of the victims, 67-year-old Surinder Singh, who was murdered, and 78-year-old Gurmej Atwal, were Sikhs, not Muslims, so this likely case of mistaken identity wouldn't count.

The same would be true of another incident in Sacramento last November in which 56-year-old Sikh immigrant Harhajan Singh, a cab driver, was beaten and robbed by tw young men who "shouted expletives and called him Osama bin Laden," presumably because Singh, like most Sikh men, wears a turban.

"He says, `I'll kill you,'" a brutalized Singh later told the press. "I say, `I'm not Muslim. Please." 

 Incidents of this kind are uncommon, but hardly unheard of. Four days after the 9/11 attacks, a Sikh immigrant named Balbir Singh Sodi was the victim of a fatal drive-by shooting at his Mesa, Arizona gas station. Frank Roque, who was convicted of murdering Sodi, took potshots at two other targets during his shooting spree -- a Lebanese-American clerk at a Mesa convenience store, and a local Afghan family.

Joliet, Illinois resident Kuldip Singh Nag wasn't shot. However, he was pepper-sprayed and severely beaten on the morning of March 11, 2007 by a police officer named Ben Grant, who materialized on his doorstep to announce that he was going to tow away a van that was sitting immobile in Nag's driveway because the vehicle had an expired license tag. 

When Nag objected to the impending auto theft, Grant attacked him, threw him to the ground, and beat him severely in front of his horrified wife and children while befouling the air with obscene -- and ignorant -- racial invective: "You f*****g Arab! You f*****g immigrant, go back to your country before I kill you!"

Nag, a Navy veteran who received the Bronze Star for his service in the first Gulf War, was already residing in his country. Granted, he had difficulty recognizing it after being severely beaten on his own property by an armed, tax-devouring bully -- and then being charged with "aggravated assault" for the supposed crime of trying to cover his head while Grant was repeatedly striking him with a baton

"I was just trying to cover up with my arms," Nag testified during his trial two years later. "He kept telling me `Go home' and `[expletive] Arab.' I'm not Muslim, but if I was, is that a crime in America?"

Well, in contemporary America -- as Nag discovered -- it is considered a form of "aggravated assault" to impede, in any way, the trajectory of a cranium-bound baton wielded by a foul-mouthed bigot in a government-issued costume. And for an increasing number of people whose bearings on reality are defined by the War Party's merry troupe of truth-twisters, it is not only a crime to be a Muslim, but even to resemble one. 

This variety of radicalization, which is likely to be a prelude to profound and pervasive ugliness as the economy continues to sicken, and the price tag of the Regime's overseas misadventures expands, is one Peter King is eager to abet. 


Update, August 11, 2016:
"I am requesting that you remove the information that refers to me immediately from this blog," protested the above-mentioned John C. Larsen in an email I received today. "There is false and misleading information listed therefore this is slander.  I was never convicted of a crime in respect to the mentioned incident and I do not like what is implied in this blog.  Please remove my picture and all references to me immediately."

Here is my reply to Mr. Larsen:

Mr. Larsen, I will not remove your publicly available photograph, nor will I remove any of the content published in my essay. I will insert an update containing your objections, however.
According to [this account], you took an `Alford plea' on the malicious harassment charge, which means that you surrendered in what would otherwise have been a losing case. I will make note of this in my update, as well.

Spoken defamation, I should point out, is slander. The printed equivalent is libel. Neither of those descriptions applies to what I published. I neither implied nor insinuated anything; I stated the facts as they were made available in the public record, and will continue to do so.

You do not like what I wrote about your behavior. I find your behavior itself to be barbarous. So I suppose in that sense we're even."

Somehow, it just seems appropriate:

I really appreciate your generous help in keeping Pro Libertate on-line. Thanks so much, and God bless!

Dum spiro, pugno!


Doug Newman said...

I watched that Orange County video again. I thought it was just Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist set that carried on like this.

Isaac said...


Jerri Lynn Ward said...

I wonder what happened to the charges against NAG. I found a reference on pacer that a Nag has sued the City of Joliet for civil rights violation, but no word on the criminal charges.

Unknown said...


While watching breaking news from Arizona, my wife made the comment, "It trickles down. Violence. It never trickles up." I believe she is correct. She's ten times smarter than I am.

What happened in Arizona was a tragedy, and it's good to discuss it and look for ways to prevent like events. In my view, the reduction of inflammatory rhetoric and the strengthening of rules regarding database input and searches for prospective gun buyers can help. But guns and fear-based hatred aren't going away. They are now part of the fabric of the Nation, and, as fear overwhelms us, we see the growth in possession of personal firearms, violent speech, crime and violence. We have to look higher up the ladder for lasting remedies.

Our society is fractured, frightened and drenched in violence. The United States has been engaged in some form of armed conflict for nearly all of its 200+ year history. When something doesn't go our way, or when our desire for control is at odds with another country's (or race's) plans, we pick up the club. Diplomacy is too often a stall while we prepare our true response, armed conflict. In order to pay for these adventures we are increasingly removing our citizen's safety net. A society that is under extreme pressure, be it financial, medical or even for that which is required for base sustenance, is a society wrapped in fear. Add to that the fear generated by a "war on terror" and you have a lethal cocktail of stress. Is the damage to our citizens irreparable?

Those many Americans who lived in quiet desperation are now facing utter desperation. And our "Troops", whom we profess to love and honor, are being damaged for life. That's not hyperbole. I receive my medical care via the VA and speak with many vets on a weekly basis. Fifty years after the conflict our Vietnam combat vets still suffer. Broken dreams, broken relationships, alcohol and drug problems, homelessness, and more. Their problem is not how they were received when they came home - their problem is war. They will be followed by a new wave of young men and women to add to our damaged populace. From what I've seen we know a bit about "coping", but not much about "curing."

Few in power care about these problems, and the citizenry increasingly understands this. It is class warfare, and the ruling class is destroying those under them. Money has replaced the noble, good and generous in too many of our lives.

All that happens near the bottom rungs of the ladder that helps in any way is valiant. Every small act of resistance helps. But until the wars end we have no chance for true civility and peaceful, happy lives. War never builds hope and kindness. Look at what we call "nation building." Hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq. Millions of Iraq's citizens displaced. A functioning infrastructure smashed and replaced with what? We faced a couple of hundred criminals calling themselves Al Qaida and we found it necessary to beat Afghanistan to a pulp? Over 700 bases strewn across the globe. Our troops in countries for over 60 years after conflicts have ended. This madness is killing our society. We must remove the stress factors that beset millions of our people.

We cannot and will not find harmony and peace in our country until the wars and those who profit from them are finished. We can work at the problems that beset us, and nibble at the edges of things, and lament the horror in Arizona but we must change the war mentality in order to achieve true peace here at home. We must do the work necessary to determine the roots of our deterioration and act on the discovered causes.

I have a simple, personal answer. I will not vote for anyone who has voted for armed conflict, or has voted for or stated they will vote for increased or renewed funding for existing armed conflict. If that means I have to write in every candidate on my ballot I will do so.

Anonymous said...

The parallels with Israel are frightening. I have noticed more and more that America is fast becoming a mirror image of that hateful, racist, paranoid state we claim as our closest friend and only democracy in the Middle East. I guess they won't be happy until we have become one huge Gaza Strip, complete with internal check points, an end of any human rights we still have and total tyranny over those they oppress. Oh wait, we already have all that, mission nearly accomplished.

William N. Grigg said...

While watching breaking news from Arizona, my wife made the comment, "It trickles down. Violence. It never trickles up." I believe she is correct. She's ten times smarter than I am.

Your wife sounds like a very wise and perceptive person!

Jerri Lynn, owing perhaps to the fact that I didn't get around to writing this essay until very late on an extremely stressful day, I neglected to point out that Mr. Nag was convicted of "assault," but I've not been able to find out what the sentence was. He is appealing the verdict and, as you note, has filed a lawsuit.

Lemuel Gulliver said...


So you noticed that too? In moral degeneracy, corruption, warmongering, daily violence, pervasive rudeness, arrogance, jingoistic ignorance, intolerance, and plain old nastiness, America becomes more and more like Israel every year that passes. You have any suggestions why? I do. It's because those people rule every facet of life in this country - the media, the TV, the movies, the newspapers, the commerce, everything, and they set the tone for all of it.

Having traveled to some 40 countries, I can say that those which are most Christian in their ethnicity (and also Arab - a delightfully hospitable and soft-spoken race) are also the most pleasant, polite, and friendly.

Wherever you find a higher proportion of those other people, you find the social sicknesses that are afflicting and destroying America. Mr. Peter King is just a symptom of a deep moral turpitude that is stifling all decency in this nation. If you want to see the future of America - if you REALLY want to see it - go take a 2-week trip to Israel. You will come back transformed:





Seen enough?
- Lemuel Gulliver.

If not, let Menachem Begin explain it for you:

"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."

— Menachem Begin - Israeli Prime Minister 1977–1983

Now you know where the Power Elite in America get their ideas, and their ideals.

- Lemuel Gulliver

Cody said...

"One feature common to this shared illusion was a speech by Villa Park Councilwoman Deborah Pauly, who boasted that she knows "quite a few Marines who would be happy to send these terrorists to an early meeting in paradise."

Just imagine if a group of Muslims held a rally outside of a Christian charity event and one of the speakers said, "I know quite a few jihadists who would be happy to send these infidels to an early grave." I guarantee you that Hannity, Beck, and the rest of their ilk would play that video every day for the next 6 months.

The truly sad thing is that she receive a wild round of applause when she said that.

You're right, Will, things could get really ugly. If I were a Muslim living in the United States, I would start looking for a way to get the hell out before the red state fascists start trying to put them in concentration camps.

Bob said...

Does anyone believe that modern-day Israel is an illegitimate country?

William N. Grigg said...

Bob, given the ugliness of Manifest Destiny (a subject I've only recently studied in any depth), I'm not certain I can describe the USA as a "legitimate" country. I certainly agree that the Israeli government -- like the one afflicting us -- is a spectacularly nasty piece of work.

I've often wondered how so many Evangelicals who properly revile the UN can see the current Israeli state -- a socialist gangster regime that was created by and through the UN -- as the divine blessing dreamed of and prayed for by ancient martyrs and saints.

There is a certain purity in the malice displayed by the criminal clique running that regime: They quite literally will screw anybody -- fellow Israelis very much included -- in order to hold on to power.

And the moral equation of contemporary Zionism strikes me as really perverse. The original idea was that Jews, who have suffered persecution for ages, need a state to be secure. Yet today, the only place where Jews face serious potential threats is Israel. So the logic of Zionism (at least its current version) dictates that individual Jews should be put in danger in order to protect the existence of the state supposedly established to protect them.

If you're the kind of person to whom this makes sense, you're likewise the kind of person who could accuse me of anti-Semitism for insisting that the life of an individual Jew -- or Arab, or Persian -- is infinitely more important than the preservation of the Israeli State, or any other.

Lemuel Gulliver said...

Mr. Grigg,

You know how fond I am of giving your readers links to follow. Perhaps too many. But here is one that is truly PRICELESS - I hope you have time to read it, or at least the Foreword, Preface, the six chapters of Part 1, and the first 3 chapters of Part 2. The chapters are quite short. It is an online version of a book first published in 1931: "Waters Flowing Eastward - The War Against the Kingship of Christ"


The chapters following the first nine consist of the so-called "Protocols of the Elders of Zion," and are somewhat tendentious and wordy. You can just read the headers and skip the details.

The later chapters are a series of examples of the application of the Zionist agenda.

There is one omission in the book. It traces the origins of the Protocols back from Russia in 1905 to mid-1850s France, but no further. In fact the Protocols were first written in 1806 when Napoleon convened a Great Sanhedrin of the Jews to write their master plan for the future. These originals are today to be found in the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris.

French mid-19th Century writers learned of these and some of them were copied out, altered, used for other purposes and eventually got into the hands of a French lawyer, Maurice Joly, and made into a satire on Napoleon III. From there they were sent in 1894 to Russia, as the book relates. This link will tell you of the origins:


It is notable that the French Revolution was, like the Russian Revolution, funded and run in the background by Zionist Jews. This explains why, in both Revolutions, Christianity and the Church were brutally suppressed and replaced with "official atheism." The same thing has been done to us in the USA over the past 50 years, but by a process of gradual subversion, negation and corruption - of morals, social conscience (Love Thy Neighbor) and spirituality (Love Thy God.)

What you write of in this essay, the stirring up of hatreds between Christians and Muslims in the USA, (the most powerful nation on the planet - so far,) and Mr. Peter King's vicious and self-serving bandwagon to further this agenda, is part and parcel of a far larger and immensely evil plan, which has been developing for centuries now.

It is a plan to enslave the entire human race under the banner of the Prince of Evil, in opposition to the Word of God. Those who work for this plan may laugh at the idea that they serve Satan, but in the world of spirit, Satan is their Master.

Zionism and its allied Gentile equivalent, Freemasonry, have a primary goal of the destruction of all religions, except so-called "Judaism" as a pseudo-religion for the storm-troops of the conquest, and their replacement with a "religion" of atheism, materialism, hedonism, degenerate morals, economic slavery and worldly power - in short, Satanism.

The lower orders of Judaism and Freemasonry are just plain folks like you and me, who know nothing of the evil nature of the top echelons of both cabals. But when you look at the evolution of Israeli society, and now our own society, you see the corrupting influence of Satan at work.

When you read the inhuman and foul words of Menachem Begin above, the Satanic agenda becomes clear.

Those who seek the truth need to read these things with a clear mind and an open heart.

- Lemuel Gulliver

Lemuel Gulliver said...


The link I gave for "Waters Flowing Eastward - The War Against The Kingship of Christ" is for a highly abridged version.

Here is a link to a version which gives the full text. If you have the time, I recommend this one instead:


- Lemuel Gulliver

William N. Grigg said...

We interrupt this thread for the following message from the proprietor:

The chapters following the first nine consist of the so-called "Protocols of the Elders of Zion," and are somewhat tendentious and wordy.

To that description I would add the necessary adjective "spurious." Whatever the merits might be of "Waters Flowing Eastward," the "Protocols" themselves are, I am satisfied, a patent and malicious fraud. I thought it was appropriate and necessary to point this out.

We now continue with the previous comment thread, already in progress...

Bob said...

That was a very good and well thought-out answer to my question, Will. There was nothing anti-Semitic about that response. On too many occasions, this country's foreign policy has come across as it has been under Israel's thumb.

Nullifier said...

For very great is the number of the stupid.

~ Galileo

Anonymous said...

Does any one also believe that Peter King is a sociopathic douchebag who fits the psychological profile of the type of person drawn to higher office during the Age of Rampant Corruption -aka Amerika circa 2011. These unabashed narcissists and crooks are drawn to Mordor on the Potomac - the epicenter of grand larceny -like flies on shit.

liberranter said...

Anon 8:51, it is impossible for any observant human being to believe otherwise.

Lemuel Gulliver said...

Mr. Grigg,

What you or I "believe" is immaterial. For us, I am certain, it is the product of the evidence each one has been able to acquire to date. For some other people, evidence is not necessary to belief. Read Eric Hoffer's book "The True Believer." "Beliefs" have prompted more murder and destruction throughout human history than almost any other cause.

For 350 years the Catholic Church did not believe Galileo, because the Bible says the Sun revolves around the Earth.

Some people refuse to believe that Jesus even existed.

Some believe the 1969 Moon Landings were staged at Universal Studios.

Over a hundred thousand people were burned at the stake because some people believed they were witches. Some believe in unicorns.

Peter King believes in a vast army of 1.5 billion "jihadis" out to rape his daughter and blow up his mother.

You see what I mean. Let us avoid their mistakes.

As regards the Protocols: If you refer to the "secret" document published by the Czarist police in 1905, I agree with you 100%. This was a propaganda screed against Jews, similar to what we see going on now in America against Muslims.

However the "Protocols" have never been a document like the US Constitution, produced at a certain date by a certain group of "Elders of Zion." It is a pseudo-religious philosophy which goes back two thousand years, which has occasionally been put down in writing, here and there.

This is one example:

In 1492, Chemor, chief Rabbi of Spain, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrin, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, when a Spanish law (under Ferdinand and Isabella) threatened their expulsion from Spain. This was the reply:

" Beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves.

"The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following:

1. As for what you say that the King of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.

2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.

3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians' lives.

4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches.

5. As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.

6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.



Lemuel Gulliver said...


The letter is found in the sixteenth century Spanish book, La Silva Curiosa, by Julio-Iniguez de Medrano (Paris, Orry, 1608), on pages 156 and 157, with the following explanation: "This letter following was found in the archives of Toledo by the Hermit of Salamanca, (while) searching the ancient records of the kingdoms of Spain; and, as it is expressive and remarkable, I wish to write it here."

This document has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the currently circulated spurious "Protocols," which as I have said, distantly derive from the 1806 conference called by Napoleon.

“Le Grand Sanhedrin de Napoleon,” as it was officially named, took place on the 20th of October 1806 at the Paris Town Hall. Under the Presidency of Rabbi David Sintzheim and with a Central Consistory comprised of 2 lay Jews and 3 rabbis, the recreated Jewish Court was joined by a General Council made up of 75 rabbis from every part of Europe.

Their report is the origin, or the ancestor, of the spurious 1905 Russian document. As I said, it is available to be read in the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris.

For Bonaparte, however, the Sanhedrin had quite another purpose. He hoped that the Jews, scattered all over the world, would contribute to his world-empire. Well aware of the Rothschild’s growing financial prowess and Jewry’s efficient commercial intercourse, Napoleon’s plan was to ingratiate himself with this economic power.

Under pressure from powerful Frenchmen who opposed his new policy toward Jewry, arguing that full civil rights afforded to Jews would eventually find them disloyal to French interests, Napoleon issued in 1808 his “Restrictive Decree.”

To Jews and liberals then and now, the edict became known as the “Decret Infame” since it placed numerous restrictions on French Jewry. Debts owed to Jews were now quite easy to avoid; Jews had to seek permission to engage in commerce; and Jews could not avoid conscription into the army by paying substitute remuneration as was their habitual practice.

Working now as an organized body, Jewry planned its revenge against the French Emperor, proving the charge of "Jewish treachery" to be true. (From Napoleon's point of view, of course. From the Jews' point of view it was merely a just retaliation.) In 1815, European Jewry found its opportunity to destroy Bonaparte. Both James Rothschild of France and Nathan Rothschild of England, whose loyalties were to the “Jewish nation” spread throughout Europe, financed Wellington’s victory over Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo.

I hope this clarifies the question of the spuriousness or the genuineness of the so-called "Protocols." Whether we accept them or not, and which historical setting-down-in-writing (by the Jews themselves, as opposed to by the Czarist Police or others,) we refer to, the philosophy they embody in their various incarnations is the philosophy of the Zionist rulers of the so-called "nation" of so-called "Israel."

As you yourself said: "There is a certain purity in the malice displayed by the criminal clique running that regime: They quite literally will screw anybody -- fellow Israelis very much included -- in order to hold on to power."

- Lemuel Gulliver

PS: I apologize for taking the discussion into this area; however the use of "The Protocols" against the Jews does resonate with the use of "The Quran" in the present pogrom in America against Muslims. One can indeed find intolerance in the Quran. One can find just the same or worse in the Bible. And the question of "belief" in the absence of "evidence" is the crux of the whole problem.

Anonymous said...

There never seems to be a lack of flags at these "events". As though we've somehow forgotten where we live and need to be reminded over and over , slaves to symbolism, again like a hammer over the head. I was taken to task by people when I remarked on how much idolatry there is in worshiping these symbols of the state. I guess I'm not a "good German" after all... even though I was born there.

Anonymous said...

LG... My own opinion of the Protocols is that they're a Zionist false flag organ created in-house in order to lure the unwary into its "honey pot" of lies. Sort of a blown cover is cover kind of argument a-la CIA, FBI, NSA agents provocateur and their poisoning of online blogs & seeding disinformation. Its happening now and no doubt has happened for centuries. Divide and conquer.

William N. Grigg said...

Its happening now and no doubt has happened for centuries. Divide and conquer.

On that topic -- stay tuned for the next PL installment, which should be up in a few hours....:-)

Anonymous said...

Shucks! As soon as I post a comment I realize I had in fact something else to say. Sorry about that. I heard your interview with Scott Horton over at Antiwar radio and it reminded me that the "War on Drugs" has created a larger body of Muslims through the prison system than if we were all left alone by the Feds. Obviously we cannot be left unmeddled" with by our self-appointed saviors.

liberranter said...

I heard your interview with Scott Horton over at Antiwar radio and it reminded me that the "War on Drugs" has created a larger body of Muslims through the prison system than if we were all left alone by the Feds.

Very interesting point. I'm curious to know if any independent research has been conducted that establishes a connection between black Americans incarcerated for drug offenses (particularly non-violent ones) and the growth of the black American Muslim population, whether as "mainstream" Muslims or through the Nation of Islam.

Anonymous said...

Dear Lemuel, I am very well aware of the state of our country and the reasons for it. As for the Protocols, I have done considerable research on that subject and ran across this article which I found quite enlightening since I was undecided until I read it. you may find it here at my blog if you care to read it.

Debate of Peter Myers with John Birdman Bryant on the Protocols of Zion

Peter Myers writes: In major US and Israeli media, propagandists for Israel have likened Jimmy Carter’s book Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid to the Protocols of Zion. The argument that the Protocols is a forgery is thus used as a shield to fend off all scholarly argument that the Israel lobby dominates United States foreign policy on the Middle East. Thus, an investigation of whether the Protocols has been proved a forgery is pivotal to the defence of Carter, Finkelstein, and Mearsheimer/Walt.
Read his analysis.
Israel Shamir


Rebellious Pagan Knight said...

I am sorry, but you and your readers appear to be moonbats.

Logic does not prove any of your points. It may validate the form of your arguments, but your premises are largely false and/or inapplicable.

Please go ahead and drink the kool-aid Jim Jones made for you.

Anonymous said...

Name calling and an invitation to suicide is always a helpful tactic. I read your blurbs Mr. Pagan Knight, does PTSD excuse your rude commentary?

Anonymous said...

"I was just trying to cover up with my arms," Nag testified during his trial two years later. "He kept telling me `Go home' and `[expletive] Arab.' I'm not Muslim, but if I was, is that a crime in America?"

The answer to that question is 'it is now!' The more enlightened and informed we've become the further we have become entrenched in our prejudices and bigotry. Please tell me the police officer who assaulted him is now jobless, or rather, no longer in law enforcement.

Anonymous said...

To miscellany101: the police officer, Benjamin Grant, who assaulted Nag is still with the Joliet Police Department. On appeal of Nag's lawsuit, it was found that Ben Grant had perjured himself when he denied he had assaulted Nag. The hospital reports of Nag's condition along with the numerous bruises and cuts on Nag's body, proved Grant assaulted Nag. I used to know Ben Grant. He was a mean, sly, brutal, thieving child and he is now a mean, brutal adult. He grew up in a dysfunctional home and was taught lies and deception He was in Iraq with the Homeland Guard and this enforced his cruelty deeper. This man should never have been a policeman, now in a position where he continue to enforce fear and brutality. Taxpayers pay this man in excess of $125K a year and also fund his pension and insurance. It makes me sick. I certainly would never want to cross his path again.

William N. Grigg said...

Anonymous -- could you contact me -- WNGrigg[at]msn[dot]com?

Thanks-- Will Grigg