Tuesday, August 9, 2011

Pity the Poor, Persecuted Police

The Man Who Terrorizes Sunriver, Oregon's "Finest"? Robert Foster, with his daughter Rebecca.

Michael Kennedy is Chief of Police in tiny Sunriver, Oregon, an unincorporated resort village in the Beaver State's Deschutes County. Kennedy insists that his police force has been terrorized for years by a marauder named Robert Foster. 

“He breaks the law all the time,” Kennedy insisted in a June 15, 2010 sworn deposition. 

“Well, have you ever arrested him?” asked Portland attorney Frank Wesson, who was representing Foster at the time.

“I have not,” admitted Kennedy.

“Has anyone in your department ever arrested him?” Wesson pressed.

Kennedy sought refuge in evasion: “Not to my knowledge, sir.” 

Bear in mind that Kennedy isn’t supervising the LAPD; he heads an eight-member police force (supplemented on occasion by a 30-member volunteer citizens patrol) in a town of fewer than 1,500 permanent residents in which actual crime is all but nonexistent. 

An honest answer would have been: No, Foster had never been arrested, because no evidence exists that he ever committed a crime. Honesty was not Kennedy’s first choice, however, nor does it appear to be his strong suit. He went on to list among Foster’s alleged crimes “disorderly conduct, interfering with a police officer, menacing, harassment, and stalking.” 

“Was he ever arrested for any of those?” Wesson persisted.

“No; fortunately for him, no,” Kennedy replied. The Chief made that statement in apparent ignorance of the fact that he had just admitted, under oath, to incompetence in the administration of the law – assuming that Foster was the serial offender depicted in Kennedy’s testimony and internal department memoranda. 

Chief Kennedy (r.) with State Rep. Whisnat (c.)
One official report from Sunriver Officer Dree Warren to Chief Kennedy describes Foster as glaring at Sunriver police officers and emitting a sinister laugh like that of “the villain the Joker from the Batman cartoons." Surely an archfiend of that magnitude can’t be allowed to prey upon the innocent people of Sunriver, and their gallant protectors!

 “I’m curious, do you know why your officers wouldn’t arrest Mr. Foster if they thought he was breaking the law?” asked the defense attorney.

After a brief bout of dissimulation, Kennedy tried to dismiss the question by insisting that he “can’t account for what every officer is thinking.”

This is true, of course. It is also entirely irrelevant. If Foster were a one-man crime wave, leaving him at large would be a grave dereliction of duty, both for Sunriver’s “Finest” and their bold and intrepid leader.  

Rather than instructing his officers to arrest Foster if there was evidence that he had committed a crime, Chief Kennedy, by his own account, told them “to document every time they had a problem with Mr. Foster.” He did this because “Mr. Foster was harassing and stalking our officers.” 

After tabulating a number of “unwanted contacts” with Foster, three of Sunriver’s “Finest” induced a judge to issue a Stalking Protection Order forbidding him to come within eyeshot of his cringing, terrorized “victims.” Under the terms of that order, the “victims” – Officers Kasey and Tiffany Hughes (a married couple) and Sgt. Joseph Patnode – can literally arrange for the arrest of Foster any time he comes within their field of vision. 

Thanks to the efforts of Robert Foster’s daughter, Rebecca Kossler, I’ve been able to review several hundred pages of detailed information on every aspect of this controversy. This includes numerous official police reports, several sworn depositions, legal filings, photographs taken of Foster by the police during several “unwanted contacts” with Foster, and a transcribed audio recording of a July 6, 2010 traffic stop involving Rebecca Kossler’s husband, Ian. 

The police accounts describe Mr. Foster engaged in such suspicious activities as sitting in his pickup truck, shopping, buying gasoline, and otherwise conducting routine business that brings him within visual distance of Sun River police officers. These incidents were breathlessly described as "evidence" of some unspecified criminal activity. 

Nowhere in any of the accounts provided by the supposed victims in this matter --the people with guns and badges and the purported authority to use lethal force in the name of "officer safety" -- is there any evidence of an actual crime or a threat to commit the same on the part of Mr. Foster. (Chief Kennedy refused to respond to repeated requests for an interview.) However, those reports are valuable evidence of unlawful activity – the unwarranted harassment and unlawful surveillance of Robert Foster by the Sunriver Police Department. 

The record of the July 6, 2010 traffic stop provides compelling evidence of a criminal conspiracy to deprive Ian Kossler of his constitutionally protected rights, and an oblique admission that the department had done the same to Robert Foster.

Hughes (c.) and Patnode (l.)
 The officer conducting the traffic stop was Kasey Hughes, one of the “victims” who filed a stalking order against Foster. When Ian Kossler asked why he was being pulled over, Hughes replied: “You weren’t wearing you seat belt when you passed me. In fact, when you were actually following me.” 

“I wasn’t following you,” Kossler objected. 

That detail is important, since Hughes, his wife Tiffany, and their supervisor, Sgt. Patnode, insisted that Foster had “followed” them on various occasions, thereby subjecting them to “coercive” or “threatening” behavior. 

During his encounter with Ian Kossler, Hughes told Sgt. Patnode via radio that Kossler had been “following” him, and that he had been parked next to Robert Foster at a local restaurant called Blondie’s.

“I’m gonna ask him in a minute and then … the fact that he is stalking me too -- he can have his concealed weapons permit revoked very quickly,” Hughes informed Patnode. 

After returning to Kossler’s vehicle, Hughes issued a citation for not wearing a seat belt – and then brazenly attempted to provoke a confrontation.

“Keep following us around and that’s what’s gonna happen, OK!” sneered Hughes.

“Dude, I wasn’t following you,” replied a composed but puzzled Kossler.

“You were following me around,” reiterated the petulant tax-feeder.

“I was not following you… Why are you so paranoid?” responded Kossler, whose patience was understandably beginning to evaporate.

“You stalk us and you’ll lose your concealed weapons permit, too,” gloated Hughes.

“I am not stalking anybody,” replied the only adult who was a party to that conversation. 

The order that targeted Foster amounts to a bill of attainder. Chief Kennedy and three of his subordinates have disposed of the necessity of providing evidence that Foster has ever committed a crime. Instead, they have criminalized the person of Robert Foster – and they won’t be satisfied until they’ve contrived some way to put him in prison. 

The traffic stop involving Foster’s son-in-law establishes a pattern on the part of the Sunriver Police: Identify a troublesome person, accuse him of “stalking” them, and use that accusation to deprive him of his rights. Just a few weeks after that encounter, Foster filed his civil rights complaint – which may be the only reason why Ian Kossler hasn’t been the subject of a spurious stalking order.

Foster’s civil case has been submitted to third-party arbitration. Under the terms of the police department’s settlement offer, Foster would be subject to a 10-year permanent stalking protection order that could not be modified, or he could choose a 5-year permanent stalking order and pay $10,000 in legal costs. 

Whichever option he selected, Foster would also be required to withdraw his tort claim against the police, and the existing legal record of the case – including the damaging admissions made by Chief Kennedy – would be expunged. This would mean that the police would be able to arrest Foster for violating the stalking order at their leisure.

Incredible as it will seem to people burdened with a capacity for rational thought, the arbitrator, Bend Attorney William Flinn, is insisting that Foster accept that deal. (Like Chief Kennedy, Mr. Flinn also refused to respond to repeated interview requests.)

"I know Bob feels that, had he accepted the [settlement] offer, the police still would have found some way to construe episodes of his future conduct as stalking,” Flinn wrote to Foster’s current defense counsel on July 11. “But, I don't think that was a good reason to reject the offer."  Four days later, Flinn reiterated his demand that Foster submit to a settlement that was manifestly not in his best interest, telling his attorney that  “there is virtually no chance that Bob will prevail in court, despite your excellent trial skills and some evidence of paranoia/lack of candor on the part of the police."  (Emphasis added) 

A more appropriate term to describe the “lack of candor” Flinn refers to is “perjury.” 

Not only are the Sunriver police paranoid, according to Flinn, but in his opinion they also pose a threat of potentially lethal violence. That’s an eminently defensible assessment – one that Flinn fashioned into an argument that Foster should submit to their demands.

"The skirmishing between the Sunriver police and Bob Foster has been going on for over five years, wrote Flinn to Foster's lawyer. "So far, no one has resorted to the use of weapons, but it appears the risk increases with every new encounter. If I were the judge hearing this case, my priority would be to defuse the situation before it gets violent. No judge wants to be blamed, in retrospect, for passing up an opportunity to prevent armed conflict and the loss of life."

In his sworn deposition, Chief Kennedy admitted that Foster has never been seen carrying a firearm. The only threat of violence in any of those encounters is that posed by the armed children under Kennedy’s supervision. That threat can, and should, be defused by ordering Kennedy and his kiddie patrol to withdraw their complaint and leave Foster alone, unless there is evidence that he’s actually committing a crime. Instead, the “mediator” is making common cause with people he describes as dishonest and potentially violent -- and who are engaged in something that can properly be described as extortion. 

The fearsome figure who causes Sunriver’s “Finest” to lose bladder control is a wiry, soft-spoken 51-year-old entrepreneur who runs a hot tub installation and maintenance company. A lifetime resident of rural Oregon, Bob Foster is the kind of blessed troublemaker who carries copies of the U.S. Constitution in his pickup truck, but – unlike nearly everybody else in Deschutes County –rarely carries a rifle in his gun rack, a fact Chief Kennedy artlessly tried to obfuscate in his sworn testimony. 

Foster is blunt but not abrasive. He is a devoted grandfather. He is also an accomplished guitarist whose irreproachable taste in classic rock is demonstrated by the fact that his favorite band is ThinLizzy. Most importantly for the purposes of the present discussion, Foster is an outspoken critic of what he describes as Sunriver’s ruling political clique.

Before 2008, Sunriver was one of the few places in the known universe where police were required by law to act as peace officers, rather than law enforcers. Although they were permitted to arrest people for crimes against person and property, they were forbidden to act as armed tax farmers by detaining and mulcting motorists who violated Oregon’s invasive seat belt law, or who committed other infractions that would result in traffic fines elsewhere.

“No seatbelt? No citation. No tail light? No ticket. In too much of a hurry? Not to worry,” reported a March 3, 2007 AP story from Sunriver. “Sgt. P.J. Beaty watches people in this upscale development breaking traffic laws, and sees plenty of them. But he can't pull them over. A man swerved head-on into Beaty's lane, and then back out again and Beaty couldn't law a glove on him.” 

Owing to the fact that Sunriver was actually governed by a private homeowners association, its streets were exempt from most of the obnoxious enactments used as pretexts for roadside shakedowns by police. As local reporter Susan Lawson of the Sunriver Scene told Pro Libertate in a May 2007 interview, “if someone were robbing the mini-mart up the road the police would obviously have the power to arrest the suspect. The police are simply not permitted to enforce a very small number – it's either six or eight – of laws dealing with minor traffic infractions, because our roads are the equivalent of private property.”

 This was an unconscionable state of affairs, according to the SROA, which prevailed on Oregon State Rep. Gene Whisnat to sponsor H.B. 3445, which extended police “authority” to include roads and streets on “premises open to the public that are owned by a homeowners association....” That measure was passed, and another freedom-promoting “loophole” was closed. But that wasn’t the end of the matter.

In 2003, the Sunriver Owner’s Association (SROA), which functions as a municipal government, had created a special service district within Deschutes County. In 2008, following passage of H.B 3445 – which put the police in the business of collecting revenue at gunpoint – the SROA enacted a special multi-million-dollar tax assessment for the special service district

Bob Foster, who has lived in the area nearly all his life and is a well-respected local businessman, became a conspicuous presence at public meetings, where he would politely but forcefully express his opposition to the service district and the tax assessment.

Like any small town dependent on tourism, Sunriver is acutely sensitive to economic trends. During one public meeting in which the town’s economic challenges were discussed, Foster suggested that the SROA could save several millions of dollars each year by seceding from Deschutes County, thereby canceling the expensive service district agreement. He also recommended that the duties of the police be scaled back to their pre-2007 role, and that Sunriver contract with a nearby town called La Pine for emergency services.

 “That’s the kind of talk that made me Public Enemy Number One,” Foster told Pro Libertate during a lengthy interview. He is a legitimate threat to the Sunriver Police – not to the physical safety of any of its officers, but to the agency's continued access to a steady stream of plundered revenue. This is why every gesture or public utterance by Foster is treated by the Sunriver Police as evidence of his criminal intent.

In an October 8 2010 petition seeking the extension of the stalking protection order, Officer Kasey Hughes accused Foster of making “violent and aggressive” statements that displayed a “distorted perception” of the police department. Among those supposedly criminal utterances was “You’re a public servant, I’m your boss.” On another occasion Foster “referred to the Sunriver Police as `the local Gestapo’” – an assessment which, given the department’s behavior, barely qualifies as hyperbole.

Foster “appears to be a highly volatile person,” simpered Hughes, accusing him of “obsessive behavior that could turn to aggression at any point.” Besides, Foster “has access to guns,” pouted Hughes, who – unlike his supposed persecutor – carries one with him at all times. 

A report filed by Officer Hughes a few weeks before submitting that petition suggests that he, not Foster, is hostage to bizarre obsessions. Hughes described how he and two other officers were responding to a citizen complaint at the Crossroads Gas Station in Sunriver when he saw Foster “sitting at a table directly in front of his truck,” writing in a notepad. A few minutes later, while interviewing a local resident, “I saw Foster standing outside his vehicle, staring at me,” Hughes continued. “I also noticed him washing his windshield very slowly.” 

Foster’s "threatening" behavior was supposedly noticed by the individual Hughes was interviewing. “Man, he’s eye-f**king you,” the resident told Hughes, according to the officer’s unsupported account. According to the report, this incident was enough to frighten Hughes away – although, oddly enough, his supposed stalker “was still at the gas pumps when I left.”

If Robert Foster is compelled to accept the Sunriver Police Department’s settlement offer, Hughes would be able to transmute a peculiar sexual fantasy of that kind into a criminal complaint. He or either of the other two “victims” would also be granted a license to stalk Foster and have him prosecuted for violating the permanent stalking order.  

Robert Foster’s experience can appropriately be described as “Kafkaesque” – but it is not unique. There are uncanny similarities between his story and recent developments in Quartzsite, Arizona, another small rural town (population circa 3,600) that is largely dependent on tourism. In recent months, something perilously close to open warfare has erupted between the Quartzsite TownCouncil and its reform-minded Mayor, Ed Foster (the shared surname is another striking coincidence).  

Foster is convinced that the Council has engaged in corrupt and dubious bookkeeping. His suspicions were sharpened by the Council’s refusal – in defiance of municipal ordinances and state law, and with the support of Police Chief Jeff Gilbert – to allow him access to the appropriate records. On several occasions, the Mayor and several other prominent critics of the Council have been arrested or harassed by the police in transparent acts of retaliation. This led ten members of the Quartzsite Police Department to file a public protest denouncing Gilbert’s abuse of “authority.” The Council has responded by declaring a state of emergency, suspending all but three members of the police force, and placing the dissenting officers under a gag order. 

One member of Quartzsite’s Town Council, Joe Winslow, persuaded Justice of the Peace Karen Slaughter (a retired sheriff’s deputy with no legal education) to issue an injunction against a local businessman named Michael Roth, who was accused of “harassing” and “threatening” Winslow by shooting him dirty looks and speaking to him disrespectfully. The court order requires that Roth surrender his firearms to Chief Gilbert and his praetorian guard – not because of anything the citizen has done, but because the offended Council member, who admits to purchasing a shotgun, describes himself as “more concerned about my reaction to his aggression than anything else.” 

In other words: This Mundane has frightened me and made me angry, so he must be disarmed before I either kill him or have one of my armed minions kill him on my behalf. There is little, if any, material difference between that demand and the terms being forced upon Robert Foster.

A third case of a similar kind is unfolding in Renton, Washington, where police and the City Attorney seek to arrest and prosecute an anonymous parodist who created several animated cartoons mocking the scandal-plagued police department

The videos “target specific members of the City of Renton and Renton Police Department with the intent to embarrass and emotionally torment the victims,” asserts police investigator Ryan Rutledge in a July 11affidavit filed in the Superior Court for King County. Rutledge contends that the videos – which by any rational definition constitute politically protected speech – are covered by the Washington State “cyberstalking” statute. In an example of what would be irony were it not related to the institutionalized corruption called "government," the Renton Deputy Police Chief Tim Troxel was given a trivial reprimand for ordering an off-duty police officer to stalk his wayward girlfriend.

Although no institutional or personal names were mentioned in the cartoons, Rutledge reports that “three individuals have come forward and identified themselves as being the persons targeted by embarrassing and emotionally tormenting comments about past sexual relationships or dating relationships that were discussed within some of these videos.” Once again, the "offense" in question consisted of making public comments that hurt the feelings of corrupt public officials.

One case of this type can be regarded as an anomaly; two can be described as coincidence; however, three or more examples constitute a pattern. 

Wherever they can get away with it, police are using wiretapping statutes to prosecute Mundanes who record their public behavior. Now local police, and the entrenched political elites they serve, are using anti-stalking and anti-harassment laws to disarm and criminalize their critics. We can expect depraved ingenuity of this kind on the part of the tax-devouring class as the retreating economic tide lays bare layer after layer of official corruption -- from Washington to Wall Street to City Hall. 

Thanks again for your help, and your patience...
... as I get the promised copies of Global Gun Grab to those of you who have been so generous.

Pro Libertate Radio has ended its run on the Liberty News Radio Network, which has changed formats. I have been approached about resuming the program with another network, and will provide details as they become available.

 Dum spiro, pugno!


GunRights4US said...

The problems associated with 1984 are best rectified with a 1775 solution!

Saladin said...

Besides, Foster “has access to guns,” Well there you go, everyone has access to guns so now all they need to do is create new legislation to cover that unfortunate fact and we will all be magically transformed into suspect criminals.

MoT said...

This pattern of behavior also reminds me of how the legal mavens in Israel now seek to lay charges of "hate crimes", which are nebulous and completely subjective, upon those who even criticize that great bastion of democratic "freedom". You now can be slapped with a suit from half way around the globe should some socialist nebbish get their panties, bought and paid for by YOU, in a twist! And we see it here where our tax-fattened overlords from Mordor-on-the-Potomac wish to muzzle their critics.... and on down the food chain it follows.

Soldier of God said...

MoT, do you know any examples of Israel charging or attempting to charge someone with a suit from halfway around the globe?

Not that I doubt Israel has or would at least like to prosecute people for criticizing them. A cursory Google search reveals that Jimmy Carter was sued for writing a book called "Palestine: Peace not Apartheid," but I'd love to hear other instances of this happening if you know of any.

Anonymous said...

Excellent article Mr. Grigg.

I hope to see ProLibertate Radio up again soon.

When I found out about your showing ending on Liberty News Radio I rushed to download the remaining MP3s I didnt download yet. To my horror they have all been deleted. Can the MP3 files be found somewhere else on the internet?

William N. Grigg said...

Anon, I appreciate your kind words. I've been offered an opportunity to continue the Pro Libertate Radio program on another network, and I'll have details soon. I'm also looking into a couple of options for posting the program archives on-line, and I'll keep you apprised on that front as well.

MoT said...

SofG... The recent law that was passed in Israel makes it punishable to boycott settlement goods but before it was passed I believe they struck down provisions for suing third parties and foreigners. Not to say they didn't intend to sneak it in but it didn't make the final cut. Jimmy Carter being sued for expressing his opinion is the height of evil absurdity. An article by Phil Giraldi about Rick Perry and his kowtowing before Tel-Aviv certainly opens ones eyes to groups who would silence any criticism of their activities. Whether it's on the global stage or the one local to you one thing is certain: cockroaches don't like to have the light of inquiry shone upon them.


aferrismoon said...

" And as I went about my god-given duties a demon took over one of our citizens an' give the evil eye , your honour, sir, and then drew a likeness of me and put it 'pon a corn dolly, and from that day on I've had a terrible pain, that no doctor can tell from where or whence it come. And I is just a poor man who would protect our community against the demons THAT man sent out of HIS eye".

" Demon, I mean Mr. Foster, thou shalt wear a patch over your left eye, and rue and other such herbs around your neck and waist whenevr you leave your home. Thou must only be out in the hours of daylight and then blindfolded and led by one pure of heart and driving a black&white"


MoT said...

Will, I saw the video you mentioned that the anonymous individual posted. It's using the same free tools that a friend of mine used to parody Larry King even down to the same male voice. If these steely eyed paladins quiver at amateurish videos of this sort then they're a truly cowardly lot and the old adage of "where there is smoke there is fire" in this case is probably true.

Anonymous said...

It's like when little children whine and complain... "Mommy! Bobby is looking at me."

"Stop looking at your sister, Bobby."

"Mommy - Bobby is staring at my refection in the window!"

"Bobby, just look straight ahead, OK?"

"Mommy!! Bobby is looking at me in the the rear view mirror!"

"Sally... shut up!"

Someone needs to tell these badged idiots just to shut the f*ck up.

Linda June said...

So, the Sunriver cops know they've been hired to p in the punchbowl, and they just don't like it that a lone dissenter from the SROA sees their quasi authority for exactly what it is. They'll hate him until the end of time even though he will never do a thing to harm them. The cops should just get over it. They won, Mr. Foster lost, and the wealthy ne'er-do-wells who saw sheep not being sheared and couldn't stand to not be robbing them under the color of law will get just what they deserve some day.

A lesser man than Mr. Foster would be calling in all kinds of anonymous tips to the police about drug activity or child porn rings amongst the SROA ne'er-do-wells.

Wait. The cops are already in on all that kind of stuff. Rather, he would be calling in tips about unlawful cutting of trees on their private property, or hunting spotted owls, or having secret meetings about undoing the special taxing district or building coi ponds without permits. Then the ne'er-do-wells will be sure to get pulled over for non-existent violations and be searched, tazed, beat and arrested. Watch how fast they would implement Mr. Foster's sensible recommendations then.

Befuddled said...

I am just appalled by that video of Ms. Jones's arrest. At least a couple of the people in the audience seemed disturbed by what was happening, yet not ONE of them got up to defend that woman against the crime being committed on her. If a few of them had simply stood up and blocked the way to the door as the thugs were hauling Jones away, it would have made a powerful, nonviolent statement.

Anyone present at that meeting who later expressed one word of outrage to someone else should hang his head in shame, having done nothing at the time. Have we really become so gutless? Where would we be if the citizens of Lexington had stood by in silence while the British confiscated their arms, only to complain to the neighbors about it later?

Anonymous said...

Few people are more dangerous than scared cops.

And it seems that most cops are scared to death.

Anonymous said...

Don't they screen cops for whininess before they hire them?

and the beat goes on...


Anonymous said...

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Will you are one of the most incredible writer/journalists I have ever had the privilege of following, but with all respect I think you should get some assistance in monetizing your site if you want to see income from your amazing talent as a blogger.

I (like many I'm sure) come here religiously. I like guns, cars, survival stuff, mountain bikes, hookers and blackjack. There's some free market research for you.

With regards and best wishes....

Lemuel Gulliver said...

Fellow serfs:

There are certain opposing forces of Nature, which remain in equilibrium while their opposition builds, until the tension is released in a catastrophic event, like an earthquake, a volcano, or a tornado.

The pressure is building below the surface of American society. Two opposing forces are at work: fear and anger. People are afraid of the threat of officially licensed violence. They are also angry at their exploitation by the parasitic servants of Leviathan, and the oligarchic owners thereof.

Here is the good news: The more afraid people are, the longer it will take, and the more anger that will build, before the anger is strong enough to overcome the fear. When the fear is small, as it is in the comparatively free nations of Europe, a small amount of anger will overcome it, and you then see what is now happening in England, or Spain, or Greece, where people are being violent, but not lethally so. They are angry, and expressing their anger, but they are not very angry, and not very violent.

Rather, what will happen in America, where people are very, very afraid, is that by the time their anger overcomes their fear, it will be immense, implacable, deadly, and thirsting for blood.

Like Libya.

Little do the powers ruling us realize this: That their continued oppression and terrorizing of the American people is simply causing the explosion of rage, when it comes, to be monumental, lethal, and volcanic in its violence.

So take comfort, children, and all readers who long for justice. Do not blame the meek and fearful sheeple who watch dumbly while their fellows are led to the butcher's knife. The rage is growing, and growing, and growing, in proportion with the fear, and when it erupts, it will crush the oppressors like a million tons of rock falling on their heads. There will not be enough planes to fly them all out of the country in time. The streets will flow with their blood, and that of their children, their mothers, their brothers, and all the members of their accursed tribes.

The sun will then rise on a new day, and we can breathe deeply of the air, freshly cleansed of the stench of corruption.

The time is coming. Yes it is.

Lemuel Gulliver.

aferrismoon said...

Perhaps some recognition of making money out of the Justice system , though I notice that none of his 'friends' seem to have been investigated to the point of arrest



Donald McBane said...

Anon @ 8/11, 4:27:

"I like guns, cars, survival stuff, mountain bikes, hookers and blackjack. There's some free market research for you."

I'd hazard to guess Will would rather give up his very voice before taking ads that promote hookers and blackjack. And our "deciders" amongst the overlord caste will soon see to it that fuel for those cars take a backseat to more immediate needs, such as eating. I'm with you, though, on guns and survival goods that will aid us through the economically dark days to come. But to suggest that readers of Will's blog should not be inclined toward a career in law enforcement is somewhat short-sighted. The types of people who read this blog are the community-minded types who should become our peace officers, not the thugees Will often highlights who are simply looking to get a paycheck for practicing militaristic brutality on these shores.

Stephen T. McCarthy said...

>>...Under the terms of that order, the “victims” – Officers Kasey and Tiffany Hughes (a married couple) and Sgt. Joseph Patnode – can literally arrange for the arrest of Foster any time he comes within their field of vision.

It seems to me every single one of those terrified cops in Sunriver, Oregon, ought to be called "Tiffany Hughes".

~ D-FensDogg
'Loyal American Underground'

Plubius Too said...

I would like to thank Will so very much for sharing my Father’s story. His passion for exposing the truth and speaking for those facing injustice is truly incredible.

"The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation – enlightened as it is – if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men. Of the latter we are in most danger at present: Let us therefore be aware of it. Let us contemplate our forefathers and posterity; and resolve to maintain the rights bequeath'd to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. — Instead of sitting down satisfied with the efforts we have already made, which is the wish of our enemies, the necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom. It is a very serious consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event. "

-Samuel Adams 1771

Plubius Too said...

It is saddening to me that Police have a socially accepted level of honesty and trustworthy! From the beginning the legal system has treated my father as if his side of the story does not even exist. I would like to thank William Grigg so very much for being the FIRST to listen and share my Father’s story. His passion for exposing the truth and speaking for those facing injustice is truly incredible.

"The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation – enlightened as it is – if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men. Of the latter we are in most danger at present: Let us therefore be aware of it. Let us contemplate our forefathers and posterity; and resolve to maintain the rights bequeath'd to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. — Instead of sitting down satisfied with the efforts we have already made, which is the wish of our enemies, the necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom. It is a very serious consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event. "

-Samuel Adams 1771

Isaac said...

McBain and Anonymous@4:27,
The ads are placed by Google Ads, and are determined by keywords taken from the content (if you have gmail, know that google is "reading" your email in order to determine which ads you see). Mr Grigg doesn't choose them. The amount of money he gets from the ads is determined by the number of times readers click through.

Officer-Involved Domestic Violence said...

Thanks for the great writing. I thoroughly enjoyed hearing about the police response to Robert Foster's 'crimes.' I too have been accused of such crimes - namely of making a false report of police misconduct (crimes of such serious nature that it calls for the death penalty and qualifies my police force as a violent terrorist gang). Since the accusations against me for making a false report of police misconduct, I have been to the police station - holding out my hands and begging them to arrest me for this crime and they refuse. Why? Because my report of police misconduct is true and they know it.

Anonymous said...

Donald McBane said, "...to suggest that readers of Will's blog should not be inclined toward a career in law enforcement is somewhat short-sighted."

I firmly disagree with that statement and I think most readers do too.

People shouldn't walk away from a career in law enforcement, they should Run! In many articles it has been made quite clear that it's not a matter of just a few bad apples rather the whole barrel is rotten. Adding a good apple changes nothing.

Honest People are corrupted by corrupt organizations.

A far better route for People seeking employment is to create or work for a private security firm.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of "having access to guns," maybe we should abolish the ATF because of the most recent in a long line of scandals?


That is a link to all of the stories the LA Times have put up recently about Fast and Furious. They are actually starting to do some good reporting. Apparently the supervisors were just promoted -- which i assume is a payoff to keep them from talking -- the FBI report is at odds with the ATF's version, and even more guns from the scandal have turned up at additional crime scenes!

Will Grigg, would you mind writing a story about the ATF scandal? As Lew Rockwell said, you are the foremost expert in the world on police state issues and abuses, and I certainly think this qualifies. More and more stuff seems to come out every week about this scandal, so I wonder how deep the story really goes?

The claims of that drug runner in chicago that the US fed gov allowed drugs to flow in exchange for info sure doesn't seem too crazy now, does it?

BBSaylor said...

Mr. Grigg, sir, you're right on the money, this isn't rational! That's because the police are trying to aggravate him into either BECOMMING the criminal they are SUGGESTING he is or LEAVE. This IS "social control"!(1) Isn't there a lawyer around who would like to OWN Sunriver THRU A TITLE 42 CIVIL RIGHTS SUIT!? I'm only a meager para-legal but seems they're RIPE for the picking!!!
PS: Thanks, for taking time to be on KMED Medford radio.
(1)See back cover: "Hypnotic States of America", by Roy Masters (Biggest Lie: people CAN be hypnotized to do things against their will when they are upset! It's psychologically called behavior modification.)

Plubius Too said...


I couldn’t agree with you more. In fact we would love to file just such a suit and we filed the tort to do just that. However, we have hit a road block trying to find a lawyer willing to do so. I have talked to many lawyers and apparently there are so many police related suits in the State of Oregon that unless it is a case involving something like brutality all the lawyers I have spoken to seem unwilling to become involved. I personally believe part of this is because of the unprecedented nature of this case. How often to Police file suit for being stalked and how often does it drag on for so long and the file become 4 inches thick? I am willing to believe there is someone like you out there who can see what you do. I have the entire case laid out in binders and could easily share it with any lawyer willing to listen and I am willing to travel anywhere to do this. Any assistance or guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated. In fact anyone reading this that can provide guidance in the way of legal representation I would love to hear from you.

Sincerest Regards,

Rebecca Kossler
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