tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post7095949537771840467..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: "Crush the Seed of Ishmael": A "Final Solution" to the "Muslim Problem"William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-67435560258473086092016-04-04T00:12:55.647-06:002016-04-04T00:12:55.647-06:00There is no "solution" to the continued ...There is no "solution" to the continued existence of Muslims, contrary to what Zumwalt has suggested. Given that he's retired, Zumwalt is not under orders to be propagating the idea of a "final solution" that would involve the extinction of Muslims; he is the sole author of such abhorrent notions, and is solely responsible for them.<br /><br />Given that what the US government has been doing since 2001 is obviously not working, we really should consider a different approach, rather than reinforcing failure (which is, of course, precisely what our rulers always do). <br /><br />Bombing and occupying Muslim countries in the name of eradicating terrorism makes as much sense as Mickey's method of dealing with the enchanted mop in "The Sorcerer's Apprentice." The dynamics of that approach will eventually dictate the kind of "solution" Zumwalt has proposed, which would leave us in the utterly terrifying position of living under an overtly genocidal government. <br /><br />I have spent time in the Middle East in the company of Muslims as a guest, rather than an armed intruder, which might explain why my perspective of them differs somewhat from yours. There is much in Muslim cultures (note the plural) that is respectable, and quite a bit in some of them that is repellent to me. I don't see any reason to view Muslims as an undifferentiated mass of menace.<br /><br />In all candor I believe a much more plausible threat to the safety of my family emanates from the government in Washington, D.C. than from any of the hideous radical groups in the Muslim world who have either coalesced out of entirely justified outrage over Washington's foreign policy, or who have actually been created with Washington's help. (See, among others, the original Afghan jihadis, the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army, the Iranian MeK, and Daesh, aka ISIS). William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-87669169841598147442016-04-03T19:58:45.812-06:002016-04-03T19:58:45.812-06:00So what is your solution? My apologies, but the d...So what is your solution? My apologies, but the desire to defend myself and my family against any threat is just natural. While not offensive in nature, I am certainly not going to stand idly by if riots such as those occurring in Europe were to start here. <br /><br />Your attack on Zumwalt was unjust. He is just performing his function as ordered. You should be attacking those politicians and financiers which serve to exacerbate the problem. As a former Marine officer, I can tell you that the military doesn't do anything without a politicians approval. Unless you saved time in that culture, I wouldn't expect you to know that and your credibility would be low.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090917928585565211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-83887611728465062372015-06-26T05:33:06.150-06:002015-06-26T05:33:06.150-06:00Read it again buddy... Hopefully there will be no ...Read it again buddy... Hopefully there will be no tax paying, voting, Muslims soon! We need to spread this message of peace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-27227900272604773422015-01-12T06:29:03.822-07:002015-01-12T06:29:03.822-07:00It is the photos, not the text, of the article tha...It is the photos, not the text, of the article that focus on drone attacks; the substance of the essay is rather a bit more involved.<br /><br />The central theme of the piece is the overt drive to criminalize Islam and eradicate those who profess that religion. I am opposed to genocidal initiatives, and have no interest in examining the supposed merits of the "other side" in such a discussion.<br /><br />Many hundreds of thousands of Muslims have been killed in internecine conflicts. Within the memory of many still living -- my father among them -- wars among nominally Christian populations have resulted in tens of millions of civilian deaths, so such barbarism isn't limited to the Muslim world.<br /><br />William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-87199220772624620422015-01-12T03:50:36.795-07:002015-01-12T03:50:36.795-07:00Article concentrates on drone àttacks against wome...Article concentrates on drone àttacks against women and children, no mention of the 100's of thousands of Muslims killed by Muslims in the name of Islam. Look at the other side as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-23416682301162134722014-10-20T03:27:44.955-06:002014-10-20T03:27:44.955-06:00Americas real strength was in the strength of its ...Americas real strength was in the strength of its ideal; it was not in the strength of its military. This is not longer the case as America degenerates into barbarism, being led by Christian and Zionist bigots and fanatics who have seized control of government policy and the propaganda apparatus--print and electronic media as well as Hollywoood. And the politicians? They are just the hired help of these lunatics. I don't vote because I refuse to validate and legitimize such people and such as nation as America has become.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-7117390543547651532014-10-17T09:45:51.989-06:002014-10-17T09:45:51.989-06:00I enjoy our correspondence. It's been some tim...<i>I enjoy our correspondence. It's been some time since I've engaged in anything like this and I welcome the opportunity to learn from my brothers in faith.</i><br /><br />I've enjoyed listening in, as well. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us.<br /><br />Peace,<br /><br />Will William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-25202366582764952892014-10-14T19:21:28.277-06:002014-10-14T19:21:28.277-06:00As Salaam Alaikum
To Pensword,
We as circumspect t...As Salaam Alaikum<br />To Pensword,<br />We as circumspect thinkers need to refer friends and colleagues to Mr. Grigg's<br />site and support his advocacy of truth and liberty which are universal. I became<br />aware of Mr. Grigg listening to Anti-War.Com Radio then hosted by Scott Horton,<br />who now can be heard @Scott Horton Show.org. The comment "This guidance<br />appears to be missing in almost the entire Mideast", tastefully alludes to the<br />fact this practice of The Prophet is virtually with no public or private<br />advocates in majority Muslim lands in the Mideast, not that it is unknown or<br />misapplied it simply put, is MIA. This phrase "unchecked greed” address's the<br />absence of a check or balancer in systems where there are people who cannot in<br />their country be brought before the court of law such as the king of Saudi<br />Arabia or the new beast in North Africa, Egypt "President" Sisi. Yet in America, President<br />Clinton was impeached, and had our Senate voted with enough removal votes he<br />would have been ejected from office. These tyrants know what's right and how to<br />do it, G-d says in The Quran "Qarun was doubtless, of the people of Moses; but he<br />acted insolently towards them:". We just need to accept the truth some people<br />are intent on wrong doing. Thank you for your observations. I appreciate how you<br />so succinctly addressed Anonymous.<br />Looking at you handle "Pensword" it is a double positive, I like the<br />implication that the word is mightier than physical weapons of war. <br />arepublicsdefenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16281494976247416787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-38839400402939296272014-10-14T00:26:14.451-06:002014-10-14T00:26:14.451-06:00As-salaamu 'alaikum.
In defense of my stateme...As-salaamu 'alaikum.<br /><br /><i>In defense of my statement I would quote Prophet Mohammed (prayers and peace be on him) where he proclaimed "help your brother if he is right or wrong" some of his followers stated we know how to help in the right, how can we help in the wrong? Prophet Mohammed (prayers and peace be on him) responded by holding him back from wrong".</i><br /><br />I'll get to this ...<br /><br /><i>This guidance appears to be missing in almost the entire Mideast, I know the chief under minder is unchecked greed and how it is used to exploit and oppress those majority Muslim countries with tyrants.</i><br /><br />Our Prophet (Peace, Mercy and Blessings upon him) foretold of "the knowledge being taken up" from among his people and this is precisely what occurred, as prophesied, within less than a century of his passing. The contemporary condition of the millenial Arab muslim world is sufficient evidence of this.<br /><br />The "unchecked greed" to which you allude is merely symptomatic. It may be argued that internecine strife among muslims in the millenial world ironically arises from application of the very haddith you quote. It's not that the haddith remains unknown, it's a matter of how we apply it.<br /><br />And this is the knowledge that's been lost there: that of the method.<br /><br />I'm familiar with Warith Deen's jama'ah. You might be interested to learn that you're not alone among muslim Americans. We've been here for years:<br /><br />http://www.muslimamerica.net/penswordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-87956623383357160682014-10-13T08:54:12.148-06:002014-10-13T08:54:12.148-06:00I am a Muslim African American and a student of th...I am a Muslim African American and a student of the Islamic School of Thought established by Imam W. Deen Mohammed and I am a Republican. That disclosure needed to be made. I have said for years that may Allah bless America if she is right or wrong. Some would look at me strangely for making a comment asking Allah to bless America if she is right or wrong. In defense of my statement I would quote Prophet Mohammed (prayers and peace be on him) where he proclaimed "help your brother if he is right or wrong" some of his followers stated we know how to help in the right, how can we help in the wrong? Prophet Mohammed (prayers and peace be on him) responded by holding him back from wrong". This guidance appears to be missing in almost the entire Mideast, I know the chief under minder is unchecked greed and how it is used to exploit and oppress those majority Muslim countries with tyrants.<br />My citizenship in America is the second greatest blessing I have received the first is my faith in G-d. Once I was having a conversation with my son and some of my employees most of which were Muslim, this was the question I asked, if America was attacked by Saudi Arabia which side would you fight on? Most Muslims did not know my son said Saudi Arabia I said you will be the first person I kill. Today this same son now says I will defend America. In fact this is the position of the Quran. I would certainly like to have a conversation with these people who actually hate America while saying they love our country.arepublicsdefenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16281494976247416787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-46599205318391842782014-10-13T01:43:11.596-06:002014-10-13T01:43:11.596-06:00I am very suspect of those wicked ones in power wh...<i>I am very suspect of those wicked ones in power who parade themselves as Christians or Jews.</i><br /><br />"By their fruits, you shall know them."<br /><br />Your inclination is a good start.<br /><br /><i>I think they might be the real "great satan" in disguise (sic)</i><br /><br />Two giants engaged in battle with each other are easily overwhelmed by a third party, however small. Perhaps this comparison will assist you in understanding how the enemies of humanity gain the upper hand by pitting the world's two largest nations of faith against each other.<br /><br /><i>These wars are all about media misdirection and slealthily crafted plans of power and wealth shifting into the hands of very few who hate humanity and want to cull the herd.</i><br /><br />The misdirection isn't new, it's older than most of us imagine and its purpose has always been driven by the desire of these few to maintain advantage over the remainder of humankind. Procuring this advantage begins by controlling the "official" historical narrative, which for both Christians and muslims, begins with Scripture.<br /><br />It is to our benefit to re-examine this narrative, that therein we may uncover what the enemies have kept concealed for so long. <br /><br /><i>I believe Muslims are saveable to Christ. May they all hear and have a chance to accept His offer of salvation.</i><br /><br />We have heard the Good News brought by Jesus and we live in accordance with it. Now ask yourself why you didn't know this before.penswordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-29031433904625720362014-10-13T00:53:15.010-06:002014-10-13T00:53:15.010-06:00Good post, except for the caption of Egyptians &qu...<i>Good post, except for the caption of Egyptians "protecting Christian church". I think I remember that photo from 2011. That was Egyptians protecting the national museum with artifacts dating several thousand years.</i><br /><br />There's an even better one William may wish to use here:<br /><br />http://www.ilovemuslims.net/2013/08/egypt-muslims-defending-churches-christians-protecting-mosques/mqukpfg/<br /><br />or here:<br /><br />http://media.vocativ.com/photos/2013/10/Egyptian-Church-Feature-620x4261960204110.jpg<br /><br />or here:<br /><br />http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ExXcawT7-FI/UhaNBR5rlaI/AAAAAAAADcI/KIVeZNV6LzI/s1600/egy-inside.jpeg<br /><br />And to provide a perspective of Pakistani muslims:<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/08/muslims-form-human-chain-pakistan_n_4057381.html<br /><br />Funny how these pictures simply don't exist for most Americans. Why is that?penswordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-69274463533136205152014-10-12T19:54:06.126-06:002014-10-12T19:54:06.126-06:00Good post, except for the caption of Egyptians &qu...Good post, except for the caption of Egyptians "protecting Christian church". I think I remember that photo from 2011. That was Egyptians protecting the national museum with artifacts dating several thousand years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-40284727132658379762014-10-12T17:19:40.717-06:002014-10-12T17:19:40.717-06:00Seems to me the incredible finger pointing at the ...Seems to me the incredible finger pointing at the Islamic population by those of other faiths, have 3 fingers pointing back at themselves. I am very suspect of those wicked ones in power who parade themselves as Christians or Jews. I think they might be the real "great satan" in disguises. These wars are all about media misdirection and slealthily crafted plans of power and wealth shifting into the hands of very few who hate humanity and want to cull the herd. I believe Muslims are saveable to Christ. May they all hear and have a chance to accept His offer of salvation. All men are damned who damn Him, no matter where they come from!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-52851892428726246032014-10-12T13:57:01.793-06:002014-10-12T13:57:01.793-06:00As a man who has faith in something and Someone mu...<i>As a man who has faith in something and Someone much more powerful than "decency," I understand that neither Islam nor anything else has the power to nullify God's promise that the church (the body of believers) will never be destroyed.</i><br /><br />I could not help but smile upon reading this, knowing that, at the foundation of your statement, a groundswell of great conviction rises to overwhelm any and all who would deprive you of faith while we who submit (the literal translation of "muslims") will defend to the death your right to hold it as you wish.<br /><br />I am personally touched by your photographs of Egypt, where I currently reside with my wife. God-willing, we hope to be stateside someday soon. Knowing that Jesus has soldiers such as you will make it all the more welcoming.penswordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-90076001806871009012014-10-12T13:45:25.489-06:002014-10-12T13:45:25.489-06:00Do you believe Islam is not a danger to Christians...<i>Do you believe Islam is not a danger to Christians or Christianity?</i><br /><br />Why would the only religion that <i>explicitly</i> commands its followers to protect the lives, property and liberty of Christians be a threat to Christians or Christianity? Perhaps you're not aware of the Treaty of Medina, or the Treaty of Jerusalem, or the convivencia, an epoch in European history from which the seeds of the Renaissance were sown? You can discover more about the latter of these here: https://archive.org/details/CitiesOfLightTheRiseAndFallOfIslamicSpain1of2<br /><br />Or perhaps you're not aware that we muslims regard churches as inviolable:<br /><br /><i>For had it not been for ALLAH's repelling some men by means of others, cloisters and <b>churches</b> and oratories and mosques, wherein the name of ALLAH is oft mentioned, would assuredly have been pulled down.</i> Qur'an 22:40<br /><br />So how is Islam, which unequivocally orders muslims to defend Christians against aggression threatening the safety and security of their community, a threat to you, Mr. Anonymous? <br /><br /><i>You call yourself a Christian.</i><br /><br />He certainly understands Jesus far more than most Christians do.<br /><br /><i>Why would you defend the largest Anti-Christian faith in the world with this article?</i><br /><br />Why do you consider Islam to be anti-Christian? We love Jesus and his mother and don't level against them the calumny and slander they endured from the leadership of Temple Israel, to whom Jesus directed his harshest words, such as "whited sepulchres of dead men bones" and "brood of vipers." Jesus himself describes the anti-Christians in Scripture. Being the devoted Christian you are, you'll surely be able to locate these references and discern who they are for yourself.<br /><br /><i>Pity, Christ did not preach decency.</i><br /><br />So "Love thy neighbor ..." and "Do unto others ..." and all those beautiful beatitudes do not arouse in you a desire to treat your fellow man with decency?<br /><br />Jesus most certainly brought decency, humility and compassion, to name but a few of the illustrious attributes with which he was graced. It's a pity that some who claim to walk in his footsteps know nothing about them.<br /><br /><i>All I see in you is a black man with a chip on his shoulder.</i><br /><br />That's because you don't see him at all.<br /><br /><i>You need to put your talents to better use.</i><br /><br />His talent as a writer far exceeds that of most I've seen, and I've known quite a few. Perhaps you would do well to heed your own advice, though I have yet to see you demonstrate much in the way of talent.penswordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-29323896819820819952014-10-12T13:16:31.397-06:002014-10-12T13:16:31.397-06:00Thank you for posting this article; it is quite an...Thank you for posting this article; it is quite an eye-opener.<br />Christian ideals and principles come from Jesus Christ Himself, who proclaimed them in His 8 Beatitudes which, btw, extoll peace and love. However, these "crusading" politicians and false pastors in Oklahoma are mouthing the New Testament's polar opposite, the Talmud, a book of the Scribes and Pharisees in Jesus' time. The Talmud is the book that calls for the extermination of Gentiles (non-Jews); and these religious bigots falsely apply the Talmud's texts to those of the Koran.<br />Jesus and His mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary, are held in very high esteem in Islam, but the opposite in the Talmud. The vast numbers of Christians slaughtered in the 20th Century weren't slaughtered by Muslims; they were slaughtered by atheistic, Bolshevik Talmudists.<br />ISIS = Israeli Secret Intelligence ServicesEileen K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13862471438300873107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-36630898071239224992014-10-12T08:33:14.808-06:002014-10-12T08:33:14.808-06:00Do you believe Islam is not a danger to Christians...<i>Do you believe Islam is not a danger to Christians or Christianity?</i><br /><br />Gary Cass, who has a large audience and exercises considerable influence, describes Islam as "the existential threat to the Christian church." I find myself wondering if his copy of the New Testament contains Matthew 16:18. As a man who has faith in something and Someone much more powerful than "decency," I understand that neither Islam nor anything else has the power to nullify God's promise that the church (the body of believers) will never be destroyed. <br /><br /><i>All I see in you is a black man with a chip on his shoulder.</i><br /><br />I am constrained to admit that your analysis of my views is every bit as accurate as your perception of my ethnic background. <br /><br />William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-69584231213966508022014-10-12T05:16:18.558-06:002014-10-12T05:16:18.558-06:00First, take the extreme view of some so-called Chr...First, take the extreme view of some so-called Christians and the minority view of some peaceful Muslims to portray Muslims as true Christians and Christians as Nazis scheming to take over America. Well done!<br /><br />Do you believe Islam is not a danger to Christians or Christianity? Think again.<br /><br />You call yourself a Christian. Why would you defend the largest Anti-Christian faith in the world with this article? Maybe because you have "no faith other than that in human decency". Pity, Christ did not preach decency.<br /><br />All I see in you is a black man with a chip on his shoulder. You screwed up on the Travon Martin hoax and you're screwing up here in regard to Christianity and the defense of America. You need to put your talents to better use.<br /><br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-57198340265532908392014-10-11T12:24:35.236-06:002014-10-11T12:24:35.236-06:00I have news for this genius. The seed of Ishmael ...I have news for this genius. The seed of Ishmael is blessed according to Bible, "And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely BLESS him; I will make him FRUITFUL and will GREATLY increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a GREAT nation."Genesis 17:20<br /><br /> Secondly, most Muslims are not even from Ishmael (80% of Muslims are not Arabs).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-59200283216092379992014-10-11T09:47:26.647-06:002014-10-11T09:47:26.647-06:00it is a sad day when so many ignorant, demented, a...it is a sad day when so many ignorant, demented, and bigoted mindsets are so close to be higher levels of leadership in the United States.This very article highlights the aforementioned mindsets.<br /><br />These people are not only dangerous to law abiding, tax paying, voting Muslim Americans, but ALL US citizens of good consciousness.1WorldTriphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11689053686622726430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-26098673720531532502014-10-11T09:06:48.173-06:002014-10-11T09:06:48.173-06:00As a native of Oklahoma, now resident of Madison, ...As a native of Oklahoma, now resident of Madison, Wisconsin, I'm saddened by the bigotry proudly displayed by politicians and ordinary citizens. There has been an Arab presence in the Sooner State for a hundred years or more, and it was valued for tolerance, its energy, and its contributions to civic progress. Hundreds of Muslim youth from the oil states such as Arabia and Iraq went there to study at the three major universities, two of which are world leaders in petroleum engineering. They were welcomed by a tolerant citizenry steeped in the communitarian ideals of the recent New Deal and of the more recent global struggle against fascism. It is a shame that hate-mongering preachers, political hacks, and ignoramuses generally now are the public face of Oklahoma.AVANCEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06782426715457773543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-19448307638567881712014-10-10T22:06:36.241-06:002014-10-10T22:06:36.241-06:00Our flag means a great deal to me. It stands for t...Our flag means a great deal to me. It stands for the best of America. America is tough and strong, but fair. We have been a force for good in the world, have we at times faltered, of course. Lets hope we once again find those strengths.BrianSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-23235384009323583262014-10-10T22:01:39.535-06:002014-10-10T22:01:39.535-06:00Wow, made me think, again. Thank You, what a timel...Wow, made me think, again. Thank You, what a timely post. BrianSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-32929940238297688082014-10-10T13:33:43.999-06:002014-10-10T13:33:43.999-06:00Great post about a crazy situation, William. Very ...Great post about a crazy situation, William. Very informative and well put together.<br /><br />Of course it is never really about the one religious group against another but actually the psychopaths in every religion and government against the rest of us.james@wpchttp://www.winterpatriot.comnoreply@blogger.com