tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post6525336955950970248..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: From Local Police to Occupying Army, or LESO: The Greater of Many EvilsWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-6830597355222528092007-11-14T08:45:00.000-07:002007-11-14T08:45:00.000-07:00Charleston went through Hurrican Hugo, where a M11...Charleston went through Hurrican Hugo, where a M113 would have been very useful. They are nice vehicles for disaster response, they (unlike police cars) are bullet-resistant, and they have low ground pressure and excellent off-road characteristics. The government is offing the A2 models for FEPP (firefighting) and LESO. I can see why the cops would prefer them in a barricade situation, and Aberdeen made some nice firefighting versions. Tracks beat wheels for not getting stuck.<BR/>When the revolution comes you can still take them out with an EFP, so cheer up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-82869117622338031792007-01-31T14:00:00.000-07:002007-01-31T14:00:00.000-07:00It'd make a good news story if someone could prete...It'd make a good news story if someone could pretend to be part of a local police force and have an APC delivered to their house.<br /><br />Of course they'd probably be put in prison shortly after the gov figured out they were duped.<br /><br />I heard we aren't selling spare F-14 parts to Iran anymore (probably part of the run up to war with them). I wonder if the Iranians could get some of our surplus hardware through this program and a local US buyer/PD they've bribed? That'd also make a great news story: "Iran Buys Surplus US Arms Despite Weapons Ban"<br /><br />Hey, it could happen.The Ownerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16192780977787646373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-18878450678781222622007-01-31T12:10:00.000-07:002007-01-31T12:10:00.000-07:00Mr. Grigg,
this is a great blog you have. I just ...Mr. Grigg,<br />this is a great blog you have. I just found it thanks to LewRockwell.com.<br />I took the time to read through your stuff here and I'm very impressed with the effort and detail present in your writings.<br />Quite often I find stuff at lew rockwell that is written by hyperventilating, hair on fire Libertarian types. You know... the world is ending... the black helicopters are coming.<br /><br />Keep fighting the good fight for liberty!<br /><br />thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-43952182614804390252007-01-31T10:43:00.000-07:002007-01-31T10:43:00.000-07:00The appearance of an armored vehicle does raise ey...The appearance of an armored vehicle does raise eye brows, as it should. <br /><br />Like SWAT teams, they have a time and place to be used. They are not something to be used with any regularity or controlled by those who can't even control themselves. This is particularly the case in areas that have a severe violent crime problem.<br /><br />Specifically I'm referring to a legitimate hostage rescue effort or a rescue operation of someone who is injured, yet still within site of an armed maniac. If the person must be rescued there is no way to get to them without creating more victims. Hand held shields and standard vehicles are insufficient protection from rifle fire. An armored vehicle can allow paramedics to be driven right up to them and drag them into the vehicle so they can be treated.<br /><br />They can also be used to allow cops to get closer to a location occupied by bandits in need of incarceration, but who have kept the cops- and neighborhood- at bay because of the armament they possess.<br /><br />Yes, these vehicles can be used for evil, as witnessed in Waco. But since violent, planned crimes are becoming more common (another issue) there will be a need for cops to protect themselves and others from gun fire.<br /><br />A fortune could be made if someone could manufacture an affordable device that can be used as a substitute. <br /><br />The cops deal with the symptoms a sick society exhibits. Many of the problems are created. We know that. <br /><br />Repairing society is the real battle.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00447111416321992256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-559640918379269062007-01-31T07:31:00.000-07:002007-01-31T07:31:00.000-07:00PDs and and their local governments can't resisit ...PDs and and their local governments can't resisit taking advantage of programs like these. They get more stuff, and stay within budget. It's a way of saying, "Look what we got, boss. And it didn't cost US a dime."<br /><br />The equipment angle is merely the most visible product of these deals. What goes unnoticed are the many cops who are working in certain postions within their community only because of a grant from the Federals to the PD, or to the state, who in turn hands out the candy at a press conference, e.g. check-points, DARE, GREAT, Community Police, School Resource Officers. <br /><br />This dangerous game has been going on for many years. Now it appears there haven't been enough takers, or there is so much more equipment there has to be an ad campaign to unload it- or both.<br /><br />Could it be 7277 before our very eyes?<br /><br />BTW, stay tuned for a Bill authorizing maintenance personnel for all the old junk that breaks down. It's like the grants mentioned above; Feds start you off with the cash for the cop, then you are on your own after a few years. Scream loud enough and then they rush to help with yet another bag of somebody elses money to keep it going.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00447111416321992256noreply@blogger.com