tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post6328639188388341156..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: The "Practical Politics" of a Presumed Plague (Second Update, April 28)William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-65810049417512652442009-10-05T05:43:56.485-06:002009-10-05T05:43:56.485-06:00Exposure to ozone can cause a significant decrease...Exposure to ozone can cause a significant decrease in lung function at lower concentrations than currently permitted under the National Ambient Air Quality Standard.Nancy Harrishttp://www.asiarooms.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-64817887345962130742009-05-04T11:28:00.000-06:002009-05-04T11:28:00.000-06:00Bob wrote: One thing, Will:
Will we be forced to ...Bob wrote: <I>One thing, Will:<br /><br />Will we be forced to take the Pig Flu shots?</I>Of course you will Bob. It is called herd immunity. When a sufficient proportion of the population has been vaccinated they protect the remainder because the disease (influenza virus in this case) cannot readily jump from victim to victim because most already possess immunity to that particular disease agent. <br /><br />Don't you want to be part of the herd Bob? Civic duty. Depending upn the disease agent, from 40 to over 80 percent of the population must be immunized for the herd immunity to take effect. I have no idea what it would be for flu...but since it so rapidly evolves it may not matter.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity<br /><br />I am quite certain it won't matter to the nice nurse with the syringe backed up by the nice National Guard troopers in full chem-bio suits with there M4 assault rifles who knock down your door.<br /><br />Of course for those who drive their family down to the drive-throughs in a panic at the latest "outbreak" to get their shots the government will need a rapid way of determining if you have received your shot. I suggest a indelible brand pressed into the arm perhaps inscribed with the lot number of the vaccine: 666.Fascist Nationhttp://freedomsphoenix.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-30987966091923961592009-05-02T22:25:00.000-06:002009-05-02T22:25:00.000-06:00Good old 'merican opputurnism there is a www page ...Good old 'merican opputurnism there is a www page with sporty fashion surgical masks for sale. Get your camo or bandana pattern surgical mask and look cool. Plague be damned were under a divine curse baby.fear emptiness despairnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-14854060073852553162009-05-02T02:36:00.000-06:002009-05-02T02:36:00.000-06:00Ozone man Gore stands to make a healthy profit off...Ozone man Gore stands to make a healthy profit off of carbon credits. If global warming is for real we will have another ice age. Most people don't grasp that an ice age is the result of global warming as earth reboots to achieve balance. Always ask yourself Why would powermad statist elites give a hoot about our health and well being? Don't take the vaccine either it will fuxx you up!millennium falconnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-85605340669960935842009-04-30T17:18:00.000-06:002009-04-30T17:18:00.000-06:00"As is so often the case when Pestilence is diggin..."<I>As is so often the case when Pestilence is digging its spurs into its white steed, its saddle partner, War, is sitting astride its own red mount and running rampant. The global paroxysm of lethal stupidity called World War I -- more accurately called the murder-suicide of the Christian West -- produced a splendid breeding environment for disease. Millions of people were mired down in static trenches in conditions perfectly calibrated to compromise their immune systems.</I>"<br /><br />This is a good point. I've seen it estimated that WWII was actually the first major conflict in all of human history to produce more casualties and deaths through direct violence than through disease.<br /><br />I shall forever be astonished that War can be sold as anything but wholesale destruction. War does not "boost the economy", War does not "spread democracy", War is destructive chaos, and it brings its friends tyranny and disease along for the ride in most cases.Neutrino Cannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11975378867727506317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-20118733969187496172009-04-30T07:26:00.000-06:002009-04-30T07:26:00.000-06:00Dear Will,
Speaking of "practical politics": Do p...Dear Will,<br /><br />Speaking of "practical politics": Do please write something for us on the defection of Arlen Specter to the Democruds. Today here in Washington, one is well advised to keep one's head low, to avoid all the flying spittle and brickbats being hurled by the enraged Repugnicans. To which one can only reply: Sore Loserman!! <br /><br />(Band strikes up...) Whine on, whine on harvest moon......<br /><br />Hopefully, a few of them will bust a blood vessel and make the springtime air even fresher.<br /><br />There is, it seems, no honor among thieves. <br /><br />Yours contentedly,<br />Lemuel Gulliver.Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-84305998347164970582009-04-30T06:40:00.000-06:002009-04-30T06:40:00.000-06:00Thank you for so eloquently explaining the situati...Thank you for so eloquently explaining the situation at hand. You are 100% dead right :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-15474335725685712452009-04-29T15:31:00.000-06:002009-04-29T15:31:00.000-06:00Mr. Grigg,
I am a regular reader and fan of your ...Mr. Grigg,<br /><br />I am a regular reader and fan of your column. I have never posted before, but couldn't help myself when I saw this:<br /><br />http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-04-26/story/multinational_forces_storm_mayport_beach_for_drills<br /><br />Good luck and God Bless You.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-60079619721971393762009-04-29T10:02:00.000-06:002009-04-29T10:02:00.000-06:00One good thing about this scare is that it is clos...One good thing about this scare is that it is closing down the public schools one right after another... <br /><br />It's good to give freedom to children.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589848926678192578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-55390751271452924362009-04-29T08:39:00.000-06:002009-04-29T08:39:00.000-06:00Bob, I'm actually working on that subject right no...Bob, I'm actually working on that subject right now. My present answer is: I'm not optimistic. (That's the phrase that will probably adorn my tombstone, incidentally.)William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-53167900696506846072009-04-29T07:51:00.000-06:002009-04-29T07:51:00.000-06:00One thing, Will:
Will we be forced to take the Pi...One thing, Will:<br /><br />Will we be forced to take the Pig Flu shots?Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16565620274260288512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-15570855287220817422009-04-29T02:49:00.000-06:002009-04-29T02:49:00.000-06:00William N. Grigg, you wrote:
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Having used some ...William N. Grigg, you wrote:<br /><br />""<br />Having used some variation on the expression "practical politics" several times, I really should specify what it means. That phrase comes from H.L. Mencken's familiar insightful definition: "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamarous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."<br /><br />I would amend that assessment only to the extent of noting that not all of the threats exploited by political rulers are imaginary. A substantial number of them are quite real, but magnified unreasonably to such an extent that they become caricatures of themselves. The current "public health emergency" over the prospect of a flu "pandemic" appears to fall into that category.<br />""<br /><br />No, Grigg, don't attempt to deminish Mencken's insight. Instead, try to fully understand it. His phraseology was correct and absolutely precise. It needs no amendment. Instead, what is needed is understanding of it.<br /><br />Friar William of Ockham's logical razor is true, and this field is no exception.<br /><br />Literally without fail, the reporting by the major media is that of diversion. That is to say, if they're pumping up some story in a major way, then one can know for an almost apodictic certaintly that the real story isn't being told. I know of no example in history when this has not been the case. So I say "almost apodictic certaintly" to mean what empirical reality has time and again demonstrated without any known exception.<br /><br />And the real story is always far worse--yet far worse in a particular way: it incriminates the government. Hence the need to ignore it.<br /><br />Yes, there are tornados and kidnapped children which the major media may make a big deal out of, but even those are diversions.<br /><br />The point here is that whatever the major media is promulgating is a diversion from what people ought to be focusing on. Take Octomom as a prime example.<br /><br />So let me give a few examples of what I mean.<br /><br />1.) The real story on President Bill Clinton is that he is a multiple-murderer (i.e., the phenomena known as Arkancide, viz. Dr. Fahmy Malak) and a serial rapist.<br /><br />2.) The real story on the 9/11 attacks is that the U.S. government was caught red-handed staging them. Viz., the videos showing the thermite pouring off the South Tower immediately before its collapse. And now the peer-reviewed study confirming what any man with a properly-functioning brain already knew from watching that thermite reaction: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen, "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe," Open Chemical Physics Journal, Vol. 2 (2009), pp. 7-31. <A HREF="http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM" REL="nofollow">http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM</A>3.) The real story on the waterboarding brouhaha is that this, again, is a diversion from the far worse tortures, rapes and murders by the U.S. government that took place and is taking place. The media focuses on rather minor crimes (all things considered) while ignoring the true serial-killer mentality and actions of the U.S. government. For details on a number of such cases, see the below post by me:<br /><br />"Crushing Children's Testicles: Welcome to the New Freedom," TetrahedronOmega, August 12, 2006 <A HREF="http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59&mforum=libertyandtruth" REL="nofollow">http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59&mforum=libertyandtruth</A>4.) The real story on the ever-reoccuring nebulous major media musings on religion vs. science is that mainline empirical science has firmly established that God exists. But don't expect to hear even an allusion of that fact on the national news, despite this result having been published in a number of the world's leading physics journals. Instead, expect to get ever-more mush-headed musings on science and religion from the major media. For the fuller details on what I here speak of, see the following resources:<br /><br />"God Proven to Exist According to Mainline Physics," December 26, 2008 <A HREF="http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122&mforum=libertyandtruth" REL="nofollow">http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122&mforum=libertyandtruth</A>Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist <A HREF="http://geocities.com/theophysics/" REL="nofollow">http://geocities.com/theophysics/</A>-----<br /><br />And I can go on down the list. In short, if the major media is making a big deal out of some event, then you can know with historical certainty that you're not being told the real story. I know of no exception to this rule.<br /><br />Yes, tornados and kidnapped children exist, but then they're issues which, in of themselves, don't have political implications. The moment some historical event takes on political implications--in the sense of how it is being reported--then one can know with historical certainty that one is being diverted. That is, the real issue lies elsewhere. As I said, I know of no example in history when this was not the case.<br /><br />The lesson here is that whenever one sees that the major media is making a big deal about something, that it is either a diversion from far more incriminating facts, or it is something irrelevant.<br /><br />Where that intersects with Mencken's statement is that if one is being told by the government and its mass media that some threat exists, one can be sure that the real threat lies elsewhere--and further, that what we're being told in this regard was manufactured in order to manipulate us. There is no exception to this in history. If one cites the American Revolution and its promoters, keep in mind that they were out of power.James Redfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11284915453745539533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-33660181353023551282009-04-28T18:47:00.000-06:002009-04-28T18:47:00.000-06:00And won't quarantines lead to "temporary" disarmam...And won't quarantines lead to "temporary" disarmament?I Hate Bobby Flaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-75547378190218531792009-04-28T12:06:00.000-06:002009-04-28T12:06:00.000-06:00Hi Liberranter,
Not caring a rat's ass what anyon...Hi Liberranter,<br /><br />Not caring a rat's ass what anyone thinks about me, I would make sure the press was there to record for posterity my complaints, demands, and suggestions. I can see them creating a Department of Microgenitalia and Sexual Dysfunction, appointing a Director (who would need to go on junkets to study the problem in Thailand and Tahiti,) hiring staff, renting office space, printing helpful brochures about how to identify whether you are afflicted or not and telling you all about the Government programs available to help you, etc. etc. <br /><br />Then, of course, when nobody came in complaining about their small, limp dicks and wanting to use the services, they would need a Commission to investigate the extent of the problem, and lavishly funded University studies of the associated social stigma and whether this was keeping the disadvantaged and needy away.<br /><br />Think of the enormous benefits to our GNP. This new program might even jump-start the economy and reverse the present recession. The world would hail me as a hero. Where do I go to collect my Nobel Prize for Economics?<br /><br />I am all for it. I think there are already a lot of much less important and entertaining ways they have found to spend our taxes.Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-85668913154025069332009-04-28T11:08:00.000-06:002009-04-28T11:08:00.000-06:00PS: Do you think I should go to one of my City Cou...<I>PS: Do you think I should go to one of my City Council meetings and complain to them about my unusually small and limp penis and demand the all-powerful and all-caring Government do something about it?</I>Not unless you want them to appoint you to that same council. The problem you describe, after all, is a key prerequisite for membership in such an august body.liberranterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-73396224478468389772009-04-28T09:29:00.000-06:002009-04-28T09:29:00.000-06:00Greg,
Thank you.... That list was hilarious - it ...Greg,<br /><br />Thank you.... That list was hilarious - it brought back such fond memories of disasters-past-that-never-happened. But you left off other terrors such as tornadoes, hurricanes, forest fires, earthquakes, tsunamis, hemmorhoids, erectile dysfunction, vaginal yeast, herpes zoster and bad breath.<br /><br />What passes for real life in America is a vast scripted TV drama, isn't it? The American Dream is just that, full of sound and fury signifying nothing but more state control. When will my piles become illegal, I wonder? Or my gingivitis? <br /><br />Thank you for making me laugh.<br /><br />PS: Do you think I should go to one of my City Council meetings and complain to them about my unusually small and limp penis and demand the all-powerful and all-caring Government do something about it?Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-45551828742082761912009-04-28T04:21:00.000-06:002009-04-28T04:21:00.000-06:00Thanks for the excellent perspective.
How many of...Thanks for the excellent perspective.<br /><br />How many of these can you remember? The Oil Crisis (70's), the New Ice Age (70's), the Soviet threat and Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD), the Killer Bee invasion, the Ozone hole, the AIDS epidemic, Mad Cow Disease, SARS, Avian Flu, Y2K, Global Warming ... and now Swine Flu. The result - ever growing statism.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07639215330146004282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51317378129088772702009-04-28T03:19:00.000-06:002009-04-28T03:19:00.000-06:00A fine posting, Will. You speak for all of us.
It...A fine posting, Will. You speak for all of us.<br /><br />It is amusing to see all the panic over a few deaths, when over 30,000 die every year in the US alone from regular flu. I think what alarms the medics is the genetic makeup of the new virus - they do not know yet if humans will have less resistance to it or just the same as other flu viruses. I do not think, though, that this panic is just more duct-tape propaganda - I think they really are worried. Not only here, where one might expect duct-tape alarmism, but all over the world.<br /><br />The question is, where did this virus come from? It is extremely implausible that three different strains of flu virus could spontaneously share genetic material without some human interference in the process. <br /><br />Two, perhaps, yes. Three, no.<br /><br />There is an apocryphal (i.e. unconfirmed and studiously ignored) allegation that AIDS started by accident in Haiti, when US Navy biowarfare research labs were trying to develop a virus that would lower the immune systems of foreign troops and render them temporarily incapable of fighting. Haiti was the testing ground because of the availablility of poor and willing test subjects. Infected Haitian prostitutes were also allegedly sent to Angola to infect the Cuban soldiers fighting there. And many American homosexuals commonly visited Haiti because of the ready availability of cheap, willing and muscular young well-hung men. (That at least is well documented.) Once it was realized that the virus was incurable and fatal, the project was ended and all records destroyed. Hence, if it did exist, (which makes perfect sense from the history of the spread of AIDS) all the evidence remaining is third- or fourth-hand hearsay from those who were involved, most of whom are, naturally, not anxious to talk about it.<br /><br />It is possible something similar was recently in process in Mexico, where there are many poor and disposable people willing to be test subjects for little money. Mexico is a very stratified society, with very rich and very poor sectors of the populace. There are plenty of highly sophisticated research labs and first-class hospitals in Mexico, along with vast slums and grinding squalor.<br /><br />Even though biological weapons research is supposed to have been discontinued by the US and others, only an innocent simpleton would be surprised if we found out that it was still continuing.<br /><br />If it is, of course, it would be all for the best of motives - to develop antidotes to protect the population (begining with the politicians and police of course) against possible bioagents developed by "rogue regimes." <br /><br />Of course. Naturally. Suuure.<br /><br />In any case, they will never tell us or even suggest the possibility. Once again, we have only our suspicions, gained from bitter experience of governmental lies and incompetence.<br /><br />- Lemuel Gulliver.Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51132544526035445532009-04-27T20:41:00.000-06:002009-04-27T20:41:00.000-06:00About one month ago there was a news story that ha...About one month ago there was a news story that had a lab in the US that shipped flu samples to other labs around the world. If I remember correctly, H1N1 and H5N1 were together in the same package. The labs that received the shipment reported what happened and that was the end of the story. I don't remember any follow up stories and I am only going by my own memory. I am suspicious because of that story.Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08905366491370539130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-4234502546575494912009-04-27T20:37:00.000-06:002009-04-27T20:37:00.000-06:00When are the people going to collectively lose all...When are the people going to collectively lose all faith in the State? When oh when? What is it going to take?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-33255476523260951122009-04-27T17:16:00.000-06:002009-04-27T17:16:00.000-06:00This is totally off topic from your post. But I c...This is totally off topic from your post. But I caught up with you and your wife and noticed you all had yourself another baby. So what was it? Are you 3 and 3 now? Tell her I said hi.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00444896414475893411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-23904649700350194742009-04-27T16:25:00.000-06:002009-04-27T16:25:00.000-06:00Bastiat reference:
http://www.econlib.org/library...Bastiat reference:<br /><br />http://www.econlib.org/library/Bastiat/basEss7.html<br /><br />Kindly read the whole essay, of course, but the pertinent paragraph is:<br /><br />7.5 This is, I repeat, a reassuring spectacle. It reassures us as to the inevitable triumph of truth, since it shows us the first authentic disseminators of subversive doctrines, frightened by their success, now concocting the antidote and the poison in the same laboratory.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03411197151234777074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-26475552404318422902009-04-27T15:26:00.000-06:002009-04-27T15:26:00.000-06:00This is intriguing. And not all that shocking.
Ve...This is intriguing. And not all that shocking.<br /><br />Very well-written, thank you!<br /><br />JrJr Deputy Accountanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12886649539758133191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-33092816705371791572009-04-27T14:38:00.000-06:002009-04-27T14:38:00.000-06:00So who else has noticed that "corporations" and "t...So who else has noticed that "corporations" and "the free market" and "free trade" automatically get blamed for everything, while the government can dump nerve gas into the ocean and "lose track" of vials of rare incurable diseases without so much as an "oops?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58820984486409184052009-04-27T13:04:00.000-06:002009-04-27T13:04:00.000-06:00Will, do you have a source for that quote from Bas...Will, do you have a source for that quote from Bastiat? I love it, but haven't come across it in my own reading of his stuff. I'd love to find the actual quote if you can point me in the right direction. Thanks!Connorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14758094738785016746noreply@blogger.com