tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post5833261376966633433..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Rubicon in the Rear-View, Part III: En Route to Military Rule (Updated, 12/27)William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-92126829040628309402009-01-22T17:02:00.000-07:002009-01-22T17:02:00.000-07:00Man, if name choice was grounds for removal from t...Man, if name choice was grounds for removal from the home by social services, there wouldn't be any room in foster homes and facilities for the influx of children these days.<BR/><BR/>I work in a residential facility with children, and it's amazing the names I encounter. Some of them border on child abuse--I say that in jest, but only partially.Al Newberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12702350396853727859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-36758957571801315692009-01-01T09:54:00.000-07:002009-01-01T09:54:00.000-07:00SellCivilizationShort, True. And we know what mart...SellCivilizationShort, <BR/><BR/>True. And we know what martyrs beget. <BR/><BR/>-Sans AuthoritasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-57759329312773498122009-01-01T01:29:00.000-07:002009-01-01T01:29:00.000-07:00"wonder if we have any patriots left in America th..."wonder if we have any patriots left in America that will join hands to return control of our nation to PresidentDon that will end this treason. When the SWAT team is at your front door, demanding surrender of all weapons, you will surrender. Brag all you want, but you will turn coward when faced with a dozen armed military demanding you submit or else."<BR/><BR/>1) Who is President Don?<BR/><BR/>2) Some people, when faced with a dozen assailants, turn martyr.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-65849094566251992192008-12-31T08:15:00.000-07:002008-12-31T08:15:00.000-07:00Dave, I, for one, do not care a whit about what th...Dave, I, for one, do not care a whit about what the Constitution says anyone can or can't do. The National Guard is itself unconstitutional. It's not a "militia of the several states," it's an occupying branch of the federal Army. <BR/><BR/>Secondly, I don't care what the Constitution says or cares for the reason that the Constitution says men can do a lot of things to each other that God says you can't. (Robbing others of their property, their money, directly flowing from these means, their liberty.)<BR/><BR/>God never said you can establish a system whereby a group of men may take money from other people by force or the threat thereof, no matter what their end may be. I cannot rob you of a third of your income, even if I donate it to an orphanage for cripples. <BR/><BR/>God specifically warned his people not to abandon their voluntary system of government in exchange for the State. Read 1 Samuel 8 and consider precisely why God is warning them, and see if you can draw a few parallels between their "manner of king" and <I>every other </I> God-forsaking man who has ruled by <I>initiating violence</I> for the past 10,000 years.<BR/><BR/> -Sans AuthoritasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-1645201286141577612008-12-31T01:55:00.000-07:002008-12-31T01:55:00.000-07:00"Still, I would point out that America is still in..."Still, I would point out that America is still in Iraq, even as light weapons are effective enough. While it's true that a ground occupation might prove difficult, or impossible, control of the air still plays a huge role and involves little or no casualties on the side of occupation forces. In this configuration, firearms and RPGs are of limited help. Unless you can prove that wrong again, my point about the 2nd amendment remains true." Littlehorn<BR/><BR/><BR/>I am sure some footage of the USAF dropping a few 500 pounders on Omaha or using some napalm on Dallas will really help the cause. Aside from troop movement, all air power does in guerilla warfare is create more guerillas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-68970141362433046152008-12-30T21:14:00.000-07:002008-12-30T21:14:00.000-07:00It is obvious to this casual observer that most fo...It is obvious to this casual observer that most folks are missing the primary point of America’s problems.<BR/><BR/>We turned away from God. You may maintain that America is not a Christian nation, but the globe trotters will tell you that other people in other countries think of America as a Christian nation.<BR/><BR/>Now we worship all sorts of idols and not the one true God.<BR/><BR/>Do you remember the shocking news when 7-11 stores were authorized to operate 7 days a week and 24 hours a day? Christians noted that this was directly moving against the commandment to rest on the Sabbath. Corporate America and its consumers thought it was a great idea. Previously American laws prohibited sale of alcohol and other non-essential consumer products on Sunday. Now just about every store and business is open on Sunday. Never mind God.<BR/><BR/>The National Guard ranks are not filled with jack booted Nazi thugs. Those ranks are filled with your neighbors. Spitting at soldiers and being rude to them does nothing except show that you have not thought out the problem. Jesus didn’t spit on the Roman soldiers. National Guard leaders are aware of the Constitutional impositions forced upon them. Are there some who would follow orders no matter if the orders violated the basic rights granted in the Constitution? Yes. Are there more who would stand up for your rights and violate those illegal orders? Yes.<BR/><BR/>Being prepared is a good option. Proverbs teaches us to be wise in God’s approved manner.<BR/><BR/>Rather than waiting for the SWAT team to show up, I recommend that you do what is readily available to prevent the SWAT team from ever showing up at your door.<BR/><BR/>Start worshiping God in a right manner. Return to singing hymns in four part harmony rather than using the tune to Gilligan’s Island for a praise song. Spend more time preaching from the Bible.<BR/><BR/>Start partaking of the Lord’s Supper every Sunday rather than once a week, or once a month or once a quarter.<BR/><BR/>Get your kids out of public schools. If your kids are grown, help someone else get their kids out of the schools.<BR/><BR/>Start living the scripture instead of talking about it. Don’t shop on Sunday if you don’t have to. Americans today think that Christians are pushovers. They are and it is because Christian men aren’t standing up for what is right.<BR/><BR/>Pray diligently that God would restore Godly leaders to our nation, to our states and to our local governments. Pray that God would restore peace to our country and turn it to a Godly country again.<BR/><BR/>DaveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-31249157147703770402008-12-30T15:06:00.000-07:002008-12-30T15:06:00.000-07:00Brag all you want, but you will turn coward when f...<I>Brag all you want, but you will turn coward when faced with a dozen armed military demanding you submit or else. We have to stop this now, not when it gets to that point.</I><BR/>That's some truth right there.Marcel Duboishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05741502563166475139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-20570715901868850312008-12-30T10:31:00.000-07:002008-12-30T10:31:00.000-07:00I submit that if you wait to act until there is a ...I submit that if you wait to act until there is a SWAT team at your door, you have already lost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-81077769609416567652008-12-29T20:35:00.000-07:002008-12-29T20:35:00.000-07:00Anonymous @ 12:28... Do you really think voting wi...Anonymous @ 12:28... <BR/><BR/>Do you really think voting will accomplish anything? Really? I'm not advocating violence by saying that, but voting? Really?<BR/><BR/>When you vote, you're not electing a man who reflects the most noble virtues found in society. You're electing the singularized aggregate of a society's ignorance. You're electing Joe Average, who suddenly has much more power than the average person, but who possesses no more wisdom, virtue, or knowledge than the average Joe. What does that get us? A bigger, more intrusive, more violent state. Always. Every time. No exceptions. <BR/><BR/>People seem to think that someone who is elected to a your-money-sucking office is somehow a wise man. A prudent or virtuous man. He's not. He's an average man who now has ludicrous amounts of power over your life. <BR/><BR/>Do you really feel the need to elect someone to take your money and give you things, because you think you're an idiot who can't act reasonably and prudently? Do you feel the need to have another man rule you? No, of course not. You know you can take care of yourself in the free market. It's always "that other guy" who needs to be controlled for his own good, because <I>he's</I> an idiot. <BR/><BR/>Give me the idiot acting with his own earned funds any day. The average man who has the power to take other people's money by violence is infinitely more dangerous.<BR/><BR/>Is that a fact, or not? If you acknowledge it as a fact, abandon all support for the mental illness that is the state. <BR/><BR/> -Sans AuthoritasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-48156121733834995302008-12-29T15:55:00.000-07:002008-12-29T15:55:00.000-07:00"When the SWAT team is at your front door, demandi..."When the SWAT team is at your front door, demanding surrender of all weapons, you will surrender."<BR/><BR/>That may be one of those Matthew 10:16 "...be wise as serpents..." moments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-64416857384005926812008-12-29T13:28:00.000-07:002008-12-29T13:28:00.000-07:00When you are trying to attack our army, you will l...When you are trying to attack our army, you will lose, because the first thing they will do is turn off all electrical power and natural gas to the community. While you struggle to save your family, they will wipe you off the face of the earth. They are playing for keeps, they have superior weapons, they can napalm your homes to maintain control. We have to win in the ballot box, and as long as you elect Republicans and Democrats, you surrender. <BR/>I wonder if we have any patriots left in America that will join hands to return control of our nation to PresidentDon that will end this treason. When the SWAT team is at your front door, demanding surrender of all weapons, you will surrender. Brag all you want, but you will turn coward when faced with a dozen armed military demanding you submit or else. We have to stop this now, not when it gets to that point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-48114317577877014262008-12-29T10:43:00.000-07:002008-12-29T10:43:00.000-07:00Will, if I may presume to address you as such, yes...Will, if I may presume to address you as such, yes, as I have now updated my blog profile to say: <BR/><BR/>Puck T. Smith is the <I>nom de plume</I> of a man who wishes to live his life in peace and obscurity while at the same time sharing the insights he has acquired through both suffering and joy in more than half a century of living in this world of terrible tragedy, radiant beauty and dizzying possibilities.<BR/><BR/>In a way you are at least partly responsible for me blogging here at blogspot. First, yours is a blog that show how it should be done. Very readable, but also very thorough. Second the link to <I>Create Blog</I> and the simplicity of blogspot made it almost too easy.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure exactly when, probably sometime in 2007, I came across your blog, likely following a link from LewRockwell.com. I have been an avid reader ever since. Most of my efforts have been more aggregating the work of others. However I have been cutting my teeth on a few social networking sites and political forums, applying the crash course in liberty and free market economics Ron Paul gave me and a myriad over the past couple of years. I'm finally ready, I think, to create a little original work of my own.<BR/><BR/>If you can spare the time I'd appreciate any critique or comment you could give on http://pucksmith.blogspot.com/2008/12/israel-has-no-right-to-exist.html <BR/><BR/>At any rate, keep up the fight.Puck T. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11165510652453834268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-32651578225856399932008-12-28T17:14:00.000-07:002008-12-28T17:14:00.000-07:00BTW -- I'm a little slower on the uptake than usua...BTW -- I'm a little slower on the uptake than usual, most likely because of the lingering effects of Christmas indulgence, but is "Puck" your actual name, or a cyber-nym?<BR/><BR/>In either case, thanks again.William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-27145513766288961532008-12-28T17:11:00.000-07:002008-12-28T17:11:00.000-07:00Mr. Puck -- Thanks so much for helping cast a wide...Mr. Puck -- Thanks so much for helping cast a wider net, and for your very kind words. <BR/><BR/>God bless!William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51141817761409091792008-12-28T16:45:00.000-07:002008-12-28T16:45:00.000-07:00Mr. Grigg,I want to congratulate and encourage you...Mr. Grigg,<BR/>I want to congratulate and encourage you for your continuing efforts to defend what little we have left.<BR/><BR/>I hope you don't mind that I've posted a brief summary of the series here http://inibo.livejournal.com/166285.html and http://pucksmith.blogspot.com/2008/12/rubicon-in-rear-view.html in hopes of disseminating what I think is some important work and possibly driving a few more eyeballs your way.<BR/><BR/>Keep it up. We need this.Puck T. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11165510652453834268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-21058351272201406782008-12-28T13:58:00.000-07:002008-12-28T13:58:00.000-07:00This person knows nothing of the history of insurg...<I>This person knows nothing of the history of insurgencies. Never make the mistake of assuming that lightly armed insurgents can do nothing against powerful militaries.</I><BR/>That's a good point. Shame on me.<BR/><I>Do you think those Iraqis and Afghans are using F-16s and tanks? They seem to be doing a bang-up job tying down a large part of our uber-modern army using assault rifles and home-made bombs. So far, something like 4000 of our troops have been killed and tens of thousands injured by insurgents using...what was the phrase?--oh yeah, "petty spitballs".</I><BR/>Indeed, you got me there. One point for the firearms. <BR/><BR/>Still, I would point out that America is still in Iraq, even as light weapons are effective enough. While it's true that a ground occupation might prove difficult, or impossible, control of the air still plays a huge role and involves little or no casualties on the side of occupation forces. In this configuration, firearms and RPGs are of limited help. Unless you can prove that wrong again, my point about the 2nd amendment remains true.Marcel Duboishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05741502563166475139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-13372743452964840812008-12-28T13:42:00.000-07:002008-12-28T13:42:00.000-07:00As a Canadian we have been acclimatized to follow...As a Canadian we have been acclimatized to follow directions of the authorities and for the most part would do so without question. However I draw a line at following the orders of the US military which situation could arise because of the agreement between the US military and the Canadian military to be used on both sides of the border. I for one will not follow orders of a foreign military attempting to patrol our streets and I think our current government in Ottawa are close to traitorous for agreeing to such an egregious possibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-92149496486378210432008-12-28T10:18:00.000-07:002008-12-28T10:18:00.000-07:00'A few casualties become martyrs; a large number b...'A few casualties become martyrs; a large number becomes an object lesson.' -- George Patton<BR/><BR/>As in Gaza -- an atrocity which the U.S., in contrast to all other governments, has actually cheered on. Its admonition to Israel to spare civilian lives, as the turkey shoot proceeds in a densely-populated city of 1.5 million, is a macabre comedian's wink to let us know it's a laugh line.<BR/><BR/>What irks the U.S. and Israel is the way the Gazans have copped a 'tude. Their election was nullified; for electing the 'wrong' party to power, their city has been under siege for three years. Yet these uppity brown folks actually think they have the right to shoot back at their oppressors. The damned cheek!<BR/><BR/>Fallujah and Gaza provide vivid warnings as to how non-submissive populations -- including here in Amurrikah -- will be 'dealt with' by the U.S. jackal government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-70644737726165970282008-12-27T17:45:00.000-07:002008-12-27T17:45:00.000-07:00"Littlehorn" said:"As for the 2nd a..."Littlehorn" said:<BR/>"As for the 2nd amendment, it made sense 2 centuries ago....I don't see some shmuck overcome the United States government with a Smith&Wesson...The government lets you buy guns, because it has such a big-ass technological and strategical edge on your petty spitballs, that it doesn't view it as a problem."<BR/><BR/> Wrong, wrong, dead wrong. This person knows nothing of the history of insurgencies. Never make the mistake of assuming that lightly armed insurgents can do nothing against powerful militaries. Do you think those Iraqis and Afghans are using F-16s and tanks? They seem to be doing a bang-up job tying down a large part of our uber-modern army using assault rifles and home-made bombs. So far, something like 4000 of our troops have been killed and tens of thousands injured by insurgents using...what was the phrase?--oh yeah, "petty spitballs".<BR/> <BR/> You may not "see some shmuck overcome the United States government with a Smith&Wesson", but you'd better believe our government takes the possibility seriously...and that's the danger that Will is trying to warn us about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-13723054207893477422008-12-27T16:01:00.000-07:002008-12-27T16:01:00.000-07:00Little Horn said:"As for the 2nd amendment, i...Little Horn said:"As for the 2nd amendment, it made sense 2 centuries ago. Now the State has helicopters, F-16s, nuclear bombs, SWAT teams, Delta Forces, etc. If you want to give people a chance, you should first level the playing field a little, cause I don't see some shmuck overcome the United States government with a Smith&Wesson, or whatever is available at Wal-Mart." <BR/><BR/>Let's see, Iraq, Afghanistan, Samalia, Vietnam, are a few places that come to mind where the might of the American military falls short against a determined guerrilla opponent. While it would be nice for the field to be leveled, it is not patently necessary. <BR/><BR/>A supposed discussion between a Nazi and a Swiss militia guy went like this....Nazi-what will you do when our 1,000,000 man army comes to you and meets your 500,000 man force? Swiss - we will shoot twice and go home. LouisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-22946391395813431302008-12-27T12:26:00.000-07:002008-12-27T12:26:00.000-07:00Americans have for the most part a skewed sense of...Americans have for the most part a skewed sense of the real history of the USA.<BR/>I can't say I blame them,they have been fed fairy tales from apologists<BR/>with heaping doses of propaganda .<BR/>For instance I hear Americans talk about the Constitution and the forefathers as if the forefathers followed the constitution.<BR/>The Fore fathers were hunted and hung or died paupers.<BR/>Fore the British would never allow<BR/>the Constitution to be ratified <BR/>So they had slaves up until the mid 1800's.<BR/>the Civil war was sparked off by the British at Harpers Ferry using Canadian and American personnel in what is known as the Abolitionist movement.<BR/>Lincoln and the North were backed by the British.and the war was fought not for freedom but to abolish the Union that was based on a consortium of states called the nation of nations.<BR/>Today the legal definition of USA is "A corporation"<BR/>and not a nation of nations.<BR/>as was the case prior to the civil war.<BR/>In effect Americans have been thumping their chests and praising<BR/>the victory of the North as a victory for America and the constitution but in point of fact nothing can be further than the truth than that.<BR/>Also Many Americans have the funny notion that America is a Christian nation with god on it's side.<BR/>These folks are so delusional that<BR/>they should be medicated.<BR/>Today we have Canadian type laws being implemented across the board in America in and effort to bring about the North American Union.<BR/>Canada is a subordinate of the Throne.<BR/>So if you understand the real history of America that is the Throne would never of given up their enterprises in America <BR/>especially not to farmers dressed in rags while they were at the height of their power the mighty British are not that kind.<BR/>The real power of America derives by way of the Throne of England<BR/>it has 54 seats at the UN<BR/>it has 26 seats at the world trade union<BR/>and it outnumbers America in America's sphere of influence 14 to 1<BR/>The throne and those behind it are behind the North American Union and they will no doubt starve America into submission to achieve<BR/>their goals.Those Americans still in the delirium thinking America is the super power and the British Empire is dead are the laughing stock of the world.<BR/><BR/>good will towards menAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-15035057029727856712008-12-27T08:59:00.000-07:002008-12-27T08:59:00.000-07:00I'm not liberranter but I want to adress some of t...I'm not liberranter but I want to adress some of the criticisms:<BR/><I>God cannot use you if you're dead or locked away in prison (away from what He had assigned you to do). John Cougar Mellancamp once said, "when i fight authority, authority always wins." now that cop had a night stick, a soldier will have a rifle. the nail that sticks up gets hammered down.--japanese proverb</I><BR/>I like the proverb, but I'm pretty sure liberranter agrees that it's better to oppose while at the same time making sure to stay alive and free. The word guerilla comes to mind here.<BR/><I>The troops will paint you as a military-hatin', left-wing, America hater. That is the classical division where TPTB place people - right or left. I'd rather not have to choose their sides. I know this is hard, but in our small ways, I'd prefer to educate our policy enforcers or military to what is right. But open confrontation just divides us more. I'd rather have correct thinking policy enforcers or military to JUDGE situations than to have it made "personal".</I><BR/>It is naive to think you could educate the military. The way the military works is conducive to authoritarianism. You can talk for hours to a soldier. But the point is, this man takes orders from his hierarchy and he has learned that he must always follow those, no matter what happens. The reason liberranter would be painted as a military hater is not that he hates the military. It is because he does not display the same obedient attitude as the soldiers do. This is a problem of culture, not of ideology. Soldiers hate hippies because they are not subservient like them, because they do not wear uniforms or have their hair cut short. It has nothing to do with how hippies treat them. Rather, this treatment adds to the hatred they already feel from the start, for the reasons I cited.<BR/><I>I can't believe we are about to inaugurate an Illegal Alien as President! As a Jewess in the US, may I remind everyone that America wasn't won with a registered gun? And that criminals are stopped by FIREARMS, not by talk? That is why all REAL Americans put our 2nd Amendment FIRST!!</I><BR/>I can't believe you are calling Barack Obama an illegal alien. Apparently, anything that is darker than snow white must be illegal, and this illegality seems to be falling down from the heavens, unconditionnal and irrevocable; instead of being the result of a legislation created by the same snow white guys who have been ruling this country from the start.<BR/>Criminals use firearms to begin with. Regulations make no sense. Either you go for a complete interdiction, including the State authorities, or you make it completely available to everyone. <BR/>As for the 2nd amendment, it made sense 2 centuries ago. Now the State has helicopters, F-16s, nuclear bombs, SWAT teams, Delta Forces, etc. If you want to give people a chance, you should first level the playing field a little, cause I don't see some shmuck overcome the United States government with a Smith&Wesson, or whatever is available at Wal-Mart. Remember also this quote: if voting made a difference, it would be illegal. Well, the same is true of firearms. If it really protected the population, it would be banned. The government lets you buy guns, because it has such a big-ass technological and strategical edge on your petty spitballs, that it doesn't view it as a problem.<BR/><I>I still have faith that when it becomes necessary, the majority of the men and women of our armed forces will be educated enough to know when they have been given an unlawful order, and will have the honor and resolve to refuse such order.</I><BR/>Such unlawful orders have been given time and again in the past century. I doubt very much the revolt will come from the same men and women who have followed them. There is always a spin to unlawful orders.Marcel Duboishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05741502563166475139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-89099225228342814182008-12-27T08:49:00.000-07:002008-12-27T08:49:00.000-07:00A Dec. 27th NY Times article provides a chilling p...A Dec. 27th NY Times article provides a chilling preview of what the military prison-camp regime will be like:<BR/><BR/>------------<BR/><BR/>CENTRAL FALLS, R.I. — Few in this threadbare little mill town gave much thought to the Donald W. Wyatt Detention Facility, the maximum-security jail beside the public ball fields at the edge of town. Even when it expanded and added barbed wire, Wyatt was just the backdrop for Little League games, its name stitched on the caps of the team it sponsored.<BR/><BR/>Then people began to disappear: the leader of a prayer group at St. Matthew’s Roman Catholic Church; the father of a second grader at the public charter school; a woman who mopped floors in a Providence courthouse.<BR/><BR/>After days of searching, their families found them locked up inside Wyatt — only blocks from home, but in a separate world.<BR/><BR/>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/27/us/27detain.html?_r=1&hp<BR/><BR/>------------<BR/><BR/>'Then people began to disappear.'<BR/><BR/>First it was the 'renditioned' terrorists. Then the illegal aliens. Then the dissidents, the hooligans, the gunners, the constitution-huggers.<BR/><BR/>The 'America' we knew is gone; an obsolete myth. Continuing to believe in it is maladaptive; a hazard to your health and well-being.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-47086028806608995032008-12-27T07:55:00.000-07:002008-12-27T07:55:00.000-07:00The military has been looking for "relevance" sinc...The military has been looking for "relevance" since the cold war ended. Unfortunately, the leadership cares not what the mission is, as long as their careers are enhanced and their fifedoms grow. This is the location of the appeal I have made to those officers. Please take a look and pass to those officials you know. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_yHY9hFl94<BR/>LouisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-27898865425597523702008-12-27T06:00:00.000-07:002008-12-27T06:00:00.000-07:00Reminds me: after Katrina folks in the media were ...Reminds me: after Katrina folks in the media were agonizing how "all that" was allowed to happen. One motor mouth said "I hope the government has a camp ready for me when the time comes." I almost coughed up my corn flakes. I know, the term "camp" has a different connotation for the uninitiated -- the point is, when stressed, most people will look to the gov't for solutions. That's just how it is.<BR/><BR/>The challenge for the liberty-minded is how to get through to people that they should not want gov't to have the power it has now, let alone any more power. <BR/><BR/>That's a toughie.<BR/><BR/>I would argue that alienating (misguided) young kids, such as what Libberanter recommends, will not help. <BR/><BR/>I was in the Army back in the eighties. I was stationed at Ft. Ord, CA for a couple of years. One Saturday I was at the local mall with a couple of other guys from "planet Ord." We were in civilian clothes, but we were obviously military. A woman approached us and asked us if we were in the military. We said we were. She then asked how it felt to be Nazis. One of my buddies said "Great. How does it feel to be a stupid c*nt?" She went away in a huff and us young soldiers had a good laugh. This woman might have been the most righteous, blessed person in town that day, but she did not convince us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com