tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post2431628040155362670..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: George W. Bush Hates AmericaWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58522350763581029252014-01-31T20:33:43.147-07:002014-01-31T20:33:43.147-07:00Torture is as stated is not an effective means of ...Torture is as stated is not an effective means of gathering information any military man worth his salt knows this. torture is meant to belittle, to intimidate to literally make the victim feel like worthless animal making them submit to the empire and even worse to feed sadistic appetites of the torturers this part happened a lot during days of slavery. <br /><br />In france the code noir forbade torture to slaves it allowed beatings and only if disobedient sadly slaves then didn't have to disobey to get tortured slave masters often did it for no reason other than to feed there appetite for sadism the law forbade it but none ever followed it.<br /><br />Mr Hans Scharff truly an honorable and intelligent man he discovered that respect and honor work a lot better than threats and pain.<br /><br />Sadly US has shunned the brilliant work of this man in favor of baser instincts and methods.<br /><br />truly sad. As for Bush the foolish and idiotic saying without torture US would be defenseless i face palm at such idiocy. then again when guy who can't even run companies right gets elected to run a country this is what to expectFrancisconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-74638129004636005622008-03-17T16:13:00.000-06:002008-03-17T16:13:00.000-06:00I too despaired of finding Christians obedient to ...I too despaired of finding Christians obedient to the Holy Spirit. For years I made it a point to not attend church when "holidays" like Memorial Day, Veterans Day, Mother's Day, Father's Day, were celebrated. I have stopped going to church because of all the pro-war propaganda, directly against Scripture. Yet when I try to point this out, I am sternly reprimanded, accused of being not merely unpatriotic, but UNCHRISTIAN!<BR/><BR/>I am content to abide with the Word of God. And now overjoyed that there ARE others of you "out there"!<BR/><BR/>2 Chronicles 20; ever heard it read, preached on, taught on? Yeah, me neither. Rev. 19. Only ONE has a weapon, and it doesn't say Semper Fi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-62430145596655773452008-03-11T19:01:00.000-06:002008-03-11T19:01:00.000-06:00To Liberranter, Right on! There does exist a few ...To Liberranter,<BR/> Right on! There does exist a few independent clerics who will not bend the knee to Baal. One is my pastor (Pastor P. Fernandes, a conservative theologian and constitutionalist based in Washington) who is quite abhorred and disgusted with the criminal Bush administration and the prevailing neocon, statist mindset that has infected the thinking -or lack thereof- of too many of my fellow Evangelical Christians. This probably explains why his church membership never seems to exceed 200. Across the Puget Sound in Microsoft country, however, you'll find a theological kindergarten also known as the Overlake Christian Church, a Bush-genuflecting megachurch with a congregation in excess of 5,000 "worshippers".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-15748063978459865512008-03-11T10:58:00.000-06:002008-03-11T10:58:00.000-06:00If I have to sit through another Sunday church ser...<I>If I have to sit through another Sunday church service where they pray for our troops and the President I think I will vomit.</I><BR/><BR/>Alas, welcome to the club of those of us who've made the painful discovery that almost ALL "evangelical" churches throughout most of the nation have been co-opted by the regime. Unless you are content to settle for membership in one of the more "mainstreamed" (i.e., socially liberal) denominations such as Methodist, Episcopal, or Presbyterian or revert to Roman Catholicism, you can pretty well forget about finding a formalized congregation that isn't in reality the Church of Neoconservative Statism. Sadly, even the Catholic Church, once not only a bastion of independent moral leadership and example, but a major guiding influence on the behavior of secular institutions, has been neutered by the twin tide of political correctness and the influence of "the great 'national' religion" that saps the power out of any faith that becomes too independent of the collectivist national mindset.<BR/><BR/>Best recommendation: Seek out fellow believers who, like you, believe in liberty, love, and respect for their fellow man and who worship the Living Christ rather than secular politicians who profess a faux belief in Him. You may be a small and intimate group that meets in someone's living room ("wherever two or more gather in my name..."), but you can be assured that your faith will only be strengthened.liberranterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-35523965593660821252008-03-11T01:39:00.000-06:002008-03-11T01:39:00.000-06:00O' Wow! I discovered like-minded dissidents on thi...O' Wow! I discovered like-minded dissidents on this blog site! Finally, I've found my home. To my brothers and sisters of freedom, we breathe, so let us fight! Can you give me an Amen! (We're with good company, for Jesus, my great God and Saviour, was a dissident too!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-61488978351555690892008-03-11T01:27:00.000-06:002008-03-11T01:27:00.000-06:00The United State of America needs to be broken up ...The United State of America needs to be broken up into smaller regions. This globalist, imperialist behemouth in all its insipid hubris must die. It simply cannot sustain itself too much longer with all of these financial obligations and military excursions it has saddled upon itself, juxtaposed by an American sensate culture comprised of a superficial and sedated people who largely possess no inkling of republican principles, and who are equally dispossessed of any fortitude to do anything about it. Something's got to give.....and soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-45609174783805956632008-03-11T00:28:00.000-06:002008-03-11T00:28:00.000-06:00"Yes, Scharff worked for a murderous regime." Yes,..."Yes, Scharff worked for a murderous regime." <BR/>Yes, he did, but that regime was just a bit more murderous than the one responsible for 'Operation Keelhaul'. Wouldn't you agree Dwight? Oh, wait. You can't answer that 'cause you're too busy burning in Hell. Sorry, my bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-20091188852402359112008-03-10T23:02:00.000-06:002008-03-10T23:02:00.000-06:00I hope the soldier who threw the puppy to its deat...I hope the soldier who threw the puppy to its death loses his legs to an IED. <BR/><BR/>That kind of sociopathic behavior is inexcusable.Treyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11799366441072101723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-40120642115120441682008-03-10T22:29:00.000-06:002008-03-10T22:29:00.000-06:00If I have to sit through another Sunday church ser...If I have to sit through another Sunday church service where they pray for our troops and the President I think I will vomit. The Bible exhorts us to pray for our leaders - it doesn't tell us what to pray. In light of this I have begun to pray that the Lord confounds and render futile the workings of "mad" men - in particular those who are evil and in positions of leadership in this country. How refreshing if we would hear that prayed from the pulpit along with the prayer that our troops will lose badly and have to come home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-50953326544674337312008-03-10T22:03:00.000-06:002008-03-10T22:03:00.000-06:00Once again, some very astute observations. Someti...Once again, some very astute observations. Sometimes I quite literally grieve for what we, as a nation, have become. Though it often seems so hopeless, someone such as yourself is at least willing to step forth and say the emperor has no clothes publicly. [and I very much enjoyed your debate at my alma mater, C of I, in December and felt quite privileged to shake your hand afterward]<BR/><BR/>We amerikkkans have become a spoiled selfish people who are subservient to a government that demands what it wants now - don't think about it, don't question, don't complain, just comply. A nation ruled by arrogant, abusive, discriminatory life forms swimming in the shallow end of the intelligence pool. But for many, as long as the ox getting gored isn't our own we cheer them on.<BR/><BR/>And, unfortunately it is not only our dealings with foreign nationals in our war of aggression, but in the way the gov't treats all of us as well. <BR/><BR/>Anyone who has had to deal with gov't bureaucracy at any level knows that the objective is compliance - not justice, not right vs. wrong, and not fairness. Compliance and it better be the answer 'they' want or else at all levels.<BR/><BR/>Can such a society survive? I think not. Let it end quickly so that those left might gather themselves up to once again seek the dream of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The way we exist today as a nation and a people is no longer salvageable nor are we deserving of salvation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-64534713306598315792008-03-10T20:04:00.000-06:002008-03-10T20:04:00.000-06:00I remember Ft. Huachuca, southeast of Tucson. I wa...I remember Ft. Huachuca, southeast of Tucson. I was TDY at Davis-Monthan in the latter 80s for two months of the field-training side of GLCM school and Huachuca is where we went on our 10-day dispersal outing. Nice country in those parts.<BR/><BR/>I agree that Herr Scharff was an honorable man by any measure. However, unlike the America of the 1940s, I seriously doubt that a man who acted in the same honorable manner in today's America would be so admired, rewarded, promoted, or even retained by those who mattered.<BR/><BR/>It's not only the Bush Regime, itself, that's despicable it's the culture itself that's become coarsened since the 1940s as that Youtube video of young Ami Soldaten so plainly illustrates. And, as you said, they'll be ripe for police work after their military service (ever) ends.<BR/><BR/>Naturally, war, especially for dubious and/or illicit reasons, only coarsens even more the already coarse and rudderless youngsters who naively enter such a meat grinder. This all would likely mean there'd be problems in the best of times when they return to civilian life and its ever more decadent culture, but with the added burden of the economy tanking, this all could portend bad omens for society at large.dixiedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-87844436996569661772008-03-10T19:34:00.000-06:002008-03-10T19:34:00.000-06:00Yeah and probably the only city w/ guts enough to ...Yeah and probably the only city w/ guts enough to put those creeps into prison would be Brattleboro... and maybe Burlington. Vermont - the one beacon of sanity left in these united feudal states of America.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-36153562926125321022008-03-10T18:21:00.000-06:002008-03-10T18:21:00.000-06:00A friend in South America said that Bush's veto of...A friend in South America said that Bush's veto of legislation which would have prohibited waterboarding is getting big news play there. <BR/><BR/>Why? Because in the 1970s, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay and Brazil had military regimes which engaged in torture. This happened within living memory, and some of the perpetrators are still being prosecuted.<BR/><BR/>In a stunning turnaround, these now-democratic nations represent beacons of freedom and human rights, while the United States has descended into the benighted third-world status of a consistent human right abuser.<BR/><BR/>It indeed takes true hatred for George W. Bush to vandalize his country this way. He belongs in a jail cell in Brattleboro, Vermont, like any antisocial hooligan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-27186701970959719222008-03-10T11:15:00.000-06:002008-03-10T11:15:00.000-06:00The reason for the disdain shown honorable individ...The reason for the disdain shown honorable individuals such as Hans-Joachim Scharff and their humane and effective methods of gathering information becomes apparent when one realizes that information gathering is not the real purpose of interrogation as practiced by the world's regimes (and their various military and police appendages) today. Rather, the sole overriding purpose of Abu Ghraib-style exercises in pain and degradation is to instill fear of and compliance with the will of the State in the hearts of the populace at large. While this may be effective in the short term, such violence-induced fear and loathing inevitably lead to resentment and acts of revenge by the victims and their families, with deadly results for the practitioners of sadism. This is being played out right now in the twin quagmires of Iraq and Afghanistan and will eventually play out here at home in the future when such torture becomes routine against dissident Amerikan citizens.liberranterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-32115691629306065582008-03-10T07:26:00.000-06:002008-03-10T07:26:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-10179367641467870442008-03-10T07:25:00.000-06:002008-03-10T07:25:00.000-06:00Broken -- why would I be offended, rather than hon...Broken -- why would I be offended, rather than honored, to find myself in the company as the estimable and accomplished Mr. Reed? He is one of the most insightful, and usefully incite-ful, writers in the blogosphere. Thanks!William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-18509560322324400512008-03-10T04:55:00.000-06:002008-03-10T04:55:00.000-06:00As a courtesy, this serves as a trackback, as I me...As a courtesy, this serves as a trackback, as I mention your post <A HREF="http://soulkiln.blogspot.com/2008/03/politics-fred-said-it-for-me.html" REL="nofollow">in my own</A> today. Forgive me if putting you in the same league as Fred Reed is distasteful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-86062927114303661072008-03-10T04:10:00.000-06:002008-03-10T04:10:00.000-06:00The neo-feudal corporate pimps who wish to make us...The neo-feudal corporate pimps who wish to make us all serfs think shrubya is great. And if anyone thinks the next corporate figurehead to occupy the white house is going to scale back the imperial executive I have a nice bridge in Brooklyn for sale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58677163042623787842008-03-10T03:37:00.000-06:002008-03-10T03:37:00.000-06:00You don't know what you're saying, Grigg!! Just lo...You don't know what you're saying, Grigg!! Just look how quickly our new "enhanced" interrogation methods have gotten us the intelligence to capture and put on trial Osama bin Ladin!!Tom Eddlemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02409142306576805540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-63647749310963155822008-03-10T01:26:00.000-06:002008-03-10T01:26:00.000-06:00The award for best documentary this year was given...The award for best documentary this year was given to "taxi cab to the dark side." It' available in segments on google videos. Hopefully this means that people will become more aware of what is going on with u.s. government torture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com