tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post1704688924112393837..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: "You Can't Pray A Lie"William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-37042273412349218512007-05-06T12:37:00.000-06:002007-05-06T12:37:00.000-06:00Hey Dixie!... I was just thinking, as is my want, ...Hey Dixie!... I was just thinking, as is my want, that in todays culture, where "diversity" is crammed ceaselessly down our throats, doesn't the very concept of diversity contradict itself? <BR/><BR/>If, as an example, I don't wish to associate myself with someone...someplace...something, regardless of reason, then am I not expressing my own individual "diversity"? Am I not being unique in that regard, or am I only "allowed" specific forms of "expression" as "defined" by these saints of socialism? Seems some animals are more equal than others, with a nod to Orwell, so long as the chief critters define the debate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-53439417370904906222007-05-03T04:29:00.000-06:002007-05-03T04:29:00.000-06:00It's a good time to remember Twain's 'War Prayer':...It's a good time to remember Twain's 'War Prayer':<BR/><BR/>http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/making/warprayer.html<BR/><BR/>-PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-20250170479863718432007-05-03T04:28:00.000-06:002007-05-03T04:28:00.000-06:00I understand and agree with your position here in ...I understand and agree with your position here in principle, Will.<BR/><BR/>Indeed, many churches are aiding the State these days, but it's often because they are much too busy trying to be "hip" with the pop culture instead of being a constant thorn in the pop culture's side. Nothing new here, as Paul witnessed the same problems in his day. He had to constantly encourage and admonish the believers of his day in Athens, Corinth, and Thessaloniki where he planted churches.<BR/><BR/>Nevertheless, as concerns agents of the State in the abstract, and as Zachary alluded to above and to repeat what I've always said, in essence, from the get-go: The folk in various positions of authority possess a character makeup and integrity that <I>reflects</I> the same traits possessed by the commoners at large.<BR/><BR/>Until the commoners change or alter their collective majority warped mindset (and sometimes ignorance) about the Constitution, their love of chronic dependency, their enthrallment with Hollyweird and its sadistic productions (i.e. 24, American Idol, Fear Factor, ad nauseam), their chronic addiction to porn and sex in general, and so on, why should anyone otherwise expect those in various positions of authority, from the bowels of this same cultural morass they arise, to possess and display a <I>more</I> virtuous and/or upright character?<BR/><BR/>Please, that’s pure fantasy and an unrealistic expectation in the extreme.<BR/><BR/>And this tired retort about “holding certain individuals to a <I>higher</I> standard than the rest of us” one often hears is pure, unadulterated nonsense as well. That’s thinking analogous to one saying, “Do as I say, not as I do.” Remember, this kind of wrong thinking is also exhibited by too many commoners as well as many authority figures because, once again, authority figures (parents, police officers, pastors, etc.) were formerly commoners (children, civilians, regular church members [part of the congregation], etc.) themselves. What they learn and record in their minds as commoners [or insert your favorite subset of society as mentioned above] from other contemporary commoners, as well as authority figures, of the given era, will naturally bring that baggage with them, in a later era, into positions of authority they then migrate into. It's Human Nature 101.<BR/><BR/>And so those few who just happen to be "mad as hell and ain't gonna take it anymore" types who are determined to "kick the rascals out in the next election," here's a newsflash: Simply tossing out morally rudderless power-mongers from the halls of government simply to be replaced by the same (since the culture hasn't changed) accomplishes nothing. If the culture can be changed, the authority figures who hail from it will likewise be changed, but not until then.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, on to another front. This hate crime legislation on the table now is yet another indication of how corrupt our culture is and the level of apathy displayed by the commoners themselves says volumes.<BR/><BR/>The commoners, after all, <I>willfully</I> voted all these reprobate politicos into office, so why are commentators inclined to ignore their role and thereby leave them off the hook and focus upon only "the State" officials alone in their daily harangues?<BR/><BR/>Do they really, <I>really</I> believe that the run-of-the-mill commoners are vastly opposed to tyrannical limitations on speech, press, religion, etc.? Has any org polled the populace at large about such matters?<BR/><BR/>I mean what else could explain why Kennedy, Hatch, Schumer, et al, are continually reelected over and over and over again? Simple, because the commoners GET WHATEVER THEY WANT FROM THOSE POLITICIANS!<BR/><BR/>There only seems to be any “hell raised” these days when there’s any proposed limitations, however remote the possibility of enactment, on debauchery, depravity, and other forms of rot.<BR/><BR/>Yes people, there is such a thing as freedom <I>from</I> something (freedom to NOT do something, avoid something or someone, ignore something or someone), in addition to the universally recognized freedom <I>of</I> something (freedom to do something). It all boils down to freedom of association (and, by extension, disassociation), into whose coffin the final nail may be close to being hammered home shortly.dixiedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-18849945394536446002007-05-02T20:46:00.000-06:002007-05-02T20:46:00.000-06:00"This isn't the intention of the earnest people wh..."This isn't the intention of the earnest people who will fill worship halls on Thursday to do what comes naturally to them – express the desires of their hearts to God."<BR/><BR/>Really? It's not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-92042277091712640332007-05-02T18:54:00.000-06:002007-05-02T18:54:00.000-06:00I have to admit to being one of those "support the...I have to admit to being one of those "support the troops" people--until I started reading this blog and Lew Rockwell. But I, and others I know of the same opinion, didn't think of it as supporting the government. I always had qualms about Iraq, but I thought of our troops as a bunch of Mel Gibsons in The Patriot or Braveheart. .<BR/><BR/>I'm a Scots-Irish Southerner who thinks of our troops as part of us and separate from the Pentagon or President. I wish I could be as articulate as Will in describing what I mean by this--it's almost as if it's in the blood. <BR/><BR/>It's going to take a lot to rip the curtain of fantasy from the eyes of those like me. Groups like Code Pink can't do that. Expressions of disrespect for the young soldiers over there will have the opposite effect.<BR/><BR/>It's going to take more bloggers like Will Grigg leading the way among Christians to reveal the truth that the government is wrongfully using our children as cannon fodder, subverting their morals, and destroying innocent Iraqi's along the way.<BR/><BR/>If I can change, I think a lot of our neighbors with the bumper stickers can too--if they are approached correctly.Jerri Lynn Ward, J.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10097381893555114911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-22970662582634060302007-05-02T10:14:00.000-06:002007-05-02T10:14:00.000-06:00While I don't watch TV if I can avoid it, I'm forc...While I don't watch TV if I can avoid it, I'm forced to agree with the thrust of Zachary's comment: The majority of those in our nation taking any action at all, even if only to document their choices on the bumpers of their vehicles, have bought the lie. Based on my understanding of Jehovah, I'm forced to pray His wrath falls soon, though I know I'm standing on the target zone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-89564157146710996032007-05-02T07:53:00.000-06:002007-05-02T07:53:00.000-06:00> Mark Twain was one of America's most notable unb...> Mark Twain was one of America's most notable unbelievers, but through Huckleberry Finn he gave voice to one of the central truths of eternity: "You can't pray a lie."<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.billstclair.com/warPrayer.html" REL="nofollow">Obligatory Twain</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="modellus(Grigg Comment)@totalusa.net" REL="nofollow">Mark Odell</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-62218157159644748552007-05-02T01:31:00.000-06:002007-05-02T01:31:00.000-06:00We spend alot of time documenting the demonic insa...We spend alot of time documenting the demonic insanity of the state, but next time you are on the road look at all the pro state, pro military, pro politico bumper stickers. We get what we deserve. The American people, i.e. your neighbors, are the real enemy. For example, 24 is one of the most popular shows on the telescreen. I'm addicted to it, but I realize that it is unadulterated state worship; most people don't think about it that way, I fear. Ignorance is only a mitigating factor, it does not excuse those in the service. You go to Iraq to pay for college, you have some blood on your hands, an amount only God knows.zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05334525584242029389noreply@blogger.com