tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post915980758801052026..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: The Hutaree Case: Next Time, They'll Just Send In The DronesWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-50562045533343707262012-04-03T23:19:44.378-06:002012-04-03T23:19:44.378-06:00Bob, the biggest problem with secession, as things...Bob, the biggest problem with secession, as things now stand, is that each state will just wind up being governed by miniature versions of Rome-on-the-Potomac. The only difference will be that the tyrants will be closer to home. Some might argue that this means that they're more effectively controlled (and eliminated), but if what we see today is any indicator, that's a myth. (To illustrate, when was the last time that even a change of city or county council did anything at all to eliminate the petty tyrannies that have characterized local governments everywhere for decades?) <br /><br />No, as long as the majority subscribes to the idea that The State is essential, it won't matter whether the tyranny operates from the local, state, or federal level. Tyranny exists because, obviously, the sheeple majority <i>wants it to exist.</i>liberranterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-55458805744201024702012-04-03T18:01:51.064-06:002012-04-03T18:01:51.064-06:00Perhaps I was a bit rash with the last sentence of...Perhaps I was a bit rash with the last sentence of my last comment. If states start leaving the union, will the regime consider using nuclear weapons to force them to reconsider?Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16565620274260288512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-31651033753647798852012-04-03T17:48:51.763-06:002012-04-03T17:48:51.763-06:00Another argument for the election of someone like ...Another argument for the election of someone like a Ron Paul. Otherwise, the individual states must, at the very least, consider secession.<br /><br />Perhaps it's time for another John Wilkes Booth.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16565620274260288512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-56351308131040743262012-04-03T16:29:32.195-06:002012-04-03T16:29:32.195-06:00It is hard to keep track of all the fbi entrapment...It is hard to keep track of all the fbi entrapment cases. Another shame is that I had to go to a Russian news page to really get the scoop on the NDAA. Sorry if off topic but I read another story of government gone wild in Colorado. A child was removed by cps because a doctor suspected broken bones in a leg. It turns out the child had an extremely rare bone disorder but the father was so distraught over the prospect of being charged with child abuse and a lengthy court case he killed himself and his wife.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-17951777535952144502012-04-01T18:57:37.327-06:002012-04-01T18:57:37.327-06:00"The Law of Suspects."
What an excelle..."The Law of Suspects." <br /><br />What an excellent and apt analogue.<br /><br />I think if the NDAA goes forward the Congress should indeed begin issuing certificates of patriotism. I mean heck, anyone can hide behind a lapel pin.<br /><br />willbwillbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51748965200678033102012-04-01T15:58:32.131-06:002012-04-01T15:58:32.131-06:00Getting someone locked up for two to three years f...Getting someone locked up for two to three years for running his mouth/thought crimes seems to be the driving force behind these cases. Even if the government loses, they win. Free speech is shut down. <br /><br />In a free society people don't need to watch what they say. <br /><br />Let's note the FBI agents name, Haug. He was also involved with Hal Turner, the sometime informant who is prison right now for running his mouth. <br /><br />The DOJ also tried to keep William White on indefinite detention as a danger to society after Judge Lynn Adelman threw out White's guilty verdict in the Matt Hale juror case last year in Chicago. <br /><br />Matt Hale is basically being held as a danger to society right now, in a very similar type of case to the Hutaree case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-86192391627274885382012-04-01T13:15:04.728-06:002012-04-01T13:15:04.728-06:00MoT said:
And to then take away their right to se...MoT said:<br /><br /><i>And to then take away their right to self defense, the very thing these folks originally banded together for, after having been fraudulently accused by these serial liars, tells you exactly what they think about anyone who says or even thinks anything that they perceive to be a threat: </i><br /><br />The good news is that NO ONE, not even the criminal, thieving liars who make up the current Regime can "take away" ANYONE'S rights, including the right to self-defense.<br /><br /><i>Although U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade – the Madam DeFarge behind this case – wasn’t able to feed the defendants to the guillotine, she expressed a measure of vindictive satisfaction that the felony convictions mean “that these defendants will never be permitted to possess firearms again.” </i><br /><br />Wrong, you criminal bitch. They will certainly BE ABLE to possess any sort of firearms they wish, as is their absolute God-given right. That they will do so IN DEFIANCE OF THE ILLEGAL FIAT OF THE REGIME YOU REPRESENT is irrelevant. <br /><br />The afore-quoted statement by the rogue prosecutor, in which an agent of the State attempts to unilaterally and UNLAWFULLY revoke the natural rights of an individual or group of individuals, is, for all practical purposes, tantamount to either a criminal trespass or a declaration of war, depending on one's point of view. That being the case, the Hutaree, who have NOT BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF ANY CRIME, have every natural right to take up arms against these criminal usurpers - as does anyone else not actually incarcerated for having committed a violation of NATURAL LAW (and even then, upon their release from prison, having paid their debt to society, are clearly entitled to reassert their natural rights, IN FULL).<br /><br />May everyone in the same position as the Hutaree find the courage to reassert their God-given rights, and may all of us who love liberty find the courage to support them in doing so, regardless of whether or not we share their beliefs.liberranterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-10790471020249453602012-04-01T01:45:29.626-06:002012-04-01T01:45:29.626-06:00Comrade I am not socially dangerous. I love dear l...Comrade I am not socially dangerous. I love dear leader saint obama, the savior, the one, the messiah! I love our efficient, trim and lean government. I love our post racial utopia. I love my...chains.monkey in manpantsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-59731654560106131612012-03-31T07:59:19.055-06:002012-03-31T07:59:19.055-06:00So, like so many others, these folks had years of ...So, like so many others, these folks had years of their lives stolen by the true criminals in this country. So I'd like to know if they'll be compensated by these very same thieves? And to then take away their right to self defense, the very thing these folks originally banded together for, after having been fraudulently accused by these serial liars, tells you exactly what they think about anyone who says or even thinks anything that they perceive to be a threat: You, citizen/slave, are their property and had better not wander off the plantation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-37003223020946183352012-03-30T17:47:08.509-06:002012-03-30T17:47:08.509-06:00"...the Hutaree group supposedly plotted to m..."...the Hutaree group supposedly plotted to murder a law enforcement officer and then follow up with opportunistic attacks on other LEOs who would attend the funeral."<br />While I very much prefer the morally unambiguous tactic of the "removal" of individuals who have proven beyond doubt by voluntary action their antagonism to and active sabotage of individual freedom, I am unconvinced that the scenario of this alleged plot is "repellent." I also see no explicit support for that premise articulated in your post. As a deity doubter who is an ardent believer in individual liberty, I invite you to make the case in terms that may convince me. <br /><br />"Michael Meeks, a 42-year-old former Marine, said that the salient lesson taught by the case was the need for Americans to 'watch what you say. Even the most innocent of statements can be used against you.'"<br />The lesson I draw from this concerns the merits of self-sufficiency. In plans to undermine the regime. Do not trust in others, _any_ others, under any circumstances. Be a force unto yourself. Will it be a lonely existence? Surely. but it is the only strategy for active resistence (there will be no effective defense of individual liberty without effective resistence of both passive and active varieties) with any realistic possibility of success. Anonymous browsing and technical information available on the internet (if you can learn to discount both lunacy and narcissistic bullshit) are your friends. <br /><br />Regarding drones, for the most part they are (relatively) slow, and rely on control signals transmitted on known frequency bands (to this point in time, at least - MIC program contraints resulting from the recession are clearly to advantage here) It is one of the most mysterious of (non) events to me that the "enemy" in South Asia has not yet successfully concocted a method to neutralize these devices. On the gripping hand, it was the altitude that crippled the Soviet 'copters in Afghanistan, not Reagan's allies, so perhaps I proffer too much credit. I trust that our home-grown insurgents will do better. If nothing else, it should not be a terribly daunting task to determine the centers from which these devices are controlled (and the personnel with "control skills")Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-14257273136472265022012-03-30T14:44:19.549-06:002012-03-30T14:44:19.549-06:00Anon @ 11:49 -- September 17, 1787 is when the Con...Anon @ 11:49 -- September 17, 1787 is when the Constitution was signed at the Philadelphia Convention, and that date is generally considered to be the birthday of the document. The ninth ratification occurred the following June, which I suppose is regarded as the day it went into effect. <br /><br />Three years later the newly created central government suppressed the Whiskey Rebellion, which demonstrates that even in its infancy the constitutional regime was devoted to something other than the protection of individual liberty. The Constitution is valuable primarily as means to measure the depth of the Regime's official hypocrisy.William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-48251741011068182612012-03-30T13:26:07.906-06:002012-03-30T13:26:07.906-06:00Another well-written post, Will. As I have reinte...Another well-written post, Will. As I have reinterated time and again, the time has come for secession from the corrupt union.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16565620274260288512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-10443048750637038142012-03-30T13:17:13.987-06:002012-03-30T13:17:13.987-06:00I can't help but wonder what kind of backlash ...I can't help but wonder what kind of backlash Judge Roberts will face from the shadow powers that be for having ruled against their interests. Any judge in this day and age who dares render such common-sense interpretations of the law and who would dare side against the State in its campaigns of persecution against selected demographic groups is probably not long for the bench. The Establishment wants Roland Freislers, not Andrew Napolitanos, fronting its "justice" apparatus.liberranterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-1466961428261158272012-03-30T11:46:20.515-06:002012-03-30T11:46:20.515-06:00"September17, 1793 (as it happened, the sixth..."September17, 1793 (as it happened, the sixth birthday of the U.S. Constitution"<br /><br />The Constitution wasn't "born" until 1789. Maybe you mean the Articles of Confederation instead?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-80519976061628618962012-03-30T09:23:00.186-06:002012-03-30T09:23:00.186-06:00Domestic terrorists? Wouldst the regime in DC put...Domestic terrorists? Wouldst the regime in DC put their evil rhetoric to work and turn the drone rockets upon themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com