tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post9062630689791315740..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Eminent Domain: We're All Indians Now (Expanded, 7/6)William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-55412965776059197252010-08-19T07:29:13.721-06:002010-08-19T07:29:13.721-06:00There are a number of reasons why the Founder'...There are a number of reasons why the Founder's Republic is degenerating into a totalitarian police state. Eminent domain is certainly a large part of this ongoing "Endarkenment" as Billy Beck calls it. Without an absolute right to property, how will any of our other rights be secure? <br /><br />A particularly egregious infringement of property rights is emanating from that wretched hive of scum and villany, Charleston, WV. Allegheny Energy and American Electric Power have created 4 shell companies (the PATH companies) to front the construction of a 276 mile long transmission line, using the States' eminent domain power, across West Virginia, Virginia, and Maryland. PATH states that this project is in the public interest, but the reality is that this project is motivated more by a guaranteed 14.3% profit on construction costs, and the potential profit inherent in sending coalfired electricity from John Amos power station to NJ and NYC, where the price of electrical power is much higher.<br /><br />Even though the State of West Virginia has not even accepted PATH's claim of being a 'public utlity', the process to strip thousands of land owners of their rights is ongoing, despite vociferous opposition from the citizenry, of whom I am one, regarding the risks, the lack of need, the costs, the lack of benefits, and the impacts on landowners and localities. <br /><br />But the real injury is the use of eminent domain to acquire the right of way, and the particularly nasty tactics employed by the PATH companies. The eminent domain issue is the primary reason that I am involved in opposing this process.<br /><br />For more information, please see-<br />www dot stoppathwv dot comLarry Wrighthttp://www.stoppathwv.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-43994357604652574432010-07-14T16:04:35.599-06:002010-07-14T16:04:35.599-06:00The American hockey song says "home of the br...The American hockey song says "home of the brave, land of the free" but what sort of home is a country where there is not one square yard from which one may not be evicted; and how can one be free if he can best be a tenant, and can always be told to move along ?<br /><br />I guess it is time to acknowledge that the good times in the United States were a fluke, an unintended consequence; reality is now back in businessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-2482146971554816562010-07-11T22:32:00.330-06:002010-07-11T22:32:00.330-06:00Dixie, You don't post a lot but when you do at...<i>Dixie, You don't post a lot but when you do at least your theme is consistent.</i><br /><br />Well, MoT, a harsh rant every now and again empties ones mind of the evils of "humanoid disdain" and "alligator mouth, jaybird ass" disease that afflicts all of us, unfortunately, and lowers ones blood pressure, at least in my case anyway.<br /><br />True, I don't post much anymore, because most folk don't care to hear/read "broken records" and I certainly don't like playin' 'em, frankly. Nevertheless, every now and again I just have to play that ol', tired dixiedog chorus. I guess it's my own rage against the machine pressure relief system at work...hehe.dixiedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-38284161154240955762010-07-10T20:25:35.863-06:002010-07-10T20:25:35.863-06:00Bill -- Missing from your article is WHO stands to...Bill -- Missing from your article is WHO stands to make money from the deal...along with how much & when did they pay off the politicians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-48504125512878370302010-07-10T06:07:02.508-06:002010-07-10T06:07:02.508-06:00Dixie, You don't post a lot but when you do a...Dixie, You don't post a lot but when you do at least your theme is consistent. You're very much correct about how there are folks who whine when the whip is in some other slave masters hands BUT when it's in what they call the "right" hands they don't seem to mind being the slave so long as they're taken care of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-74126371331581497872010-07-09T13:36:26.900-06:002010-07-09T13:36:26.900-06:00[continued]
Are we ready for the "lion dens&...[continued]<br /><br />Are we ready for the "lion dens" yet? Most folk will naturally "go along to get along" and avoid the "dens" altogether and will pay later, but those who are not changing their mindset or behavior to fit a collective "harmony" will pay now. Nothing wrong with a collective harmony in and of itself IF the collective in question is genuinely voluntary. But the ironic twist is that the "collective harmony" we often see <b>is</b> largely voluntary, NOT coerced! The coercive "go along to get along" aspect exists, yes, but much of the populace "go along because they genuinely belong."<br /></RANT>dixiedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-42070104932724566862010-07-09T13:32:30.229-06:002010-07-09T13:32:30.229-06:00"They hate Peter when he robs them to pay Pau..."They hate Peter when he robs them to pay Paul, but they love Peter when he robs Paul to pay them."<br /><br />For those who don't get the analogy, <i>Peter</i> ≈ Leviathan(ette), <i>They, them</i> ≈ the morally rudderless sheeple, <i>Paul</i> ≈ developer/small business/large business/corporation/et al.<br /><br />That's a quote from Tim Baldwin's latest column, not my own verbiage. He may not have meant it precisely as I define it above, but that's my take as pertains to situations like you describe in this piece.<br /><br />Anyway, once again, the core problem in this instance as in so many others (sigh) is that most "mere mundanes" or commoners collectively only see "bad," "ugly," and "unconstitutional" when it's their OWN pockets or property targeted for plunder/expropriation and are fat, happy, contented, and oblivious otherwise.<br /><br />As I once asked my elders when I was a kid nominal variations of the following about <i>this</i> country: "Hey Grandma/Grandpa, look at what's happening over there in [<i>that</i> city, <i>that</i> county, <i>that</i> state]? Or "up there" in Washington (DC)? The answer was likewise also nominal variations of the following: "Well son, we shouldn't be so worried or concerned about <i>that</i> potential problem <i>over there</i>..." It never seemed to occur to them that social decay and corruption within the same country <i>over there</i> when left unchecked eventually will become prevalent <i>over here</i>. Ergo, depravity, corruption, and licentiousness prevailing among the people at large will also <i>drain down</i> into government itself at some point. Certain individuals who come forth out of the drainage will naturally behave and act accordingly when/if they manage to finesse their way into Leviathan's or a Leviathanette's halls of power.<br /><br />And look at the sign: "...<i>until</i> the FAA approves/disapproves the Airport". So, hmm, are the folk there only quibbling about whether mama Leviathan or Leviathanette Illinois approves the expropriation? I reckon they'll be a-okay once the FAA approves of it.<br /><br /><RANT><br />America is done. And it was thoroughly cooked by the <i>people</i>, specifically the so-called Christians, by way of their own apathy, immorality, and collaboration in the growth of government themselves (of course for "righteous" reasons). It never seemed to occur to them that if/when civility and morality (or at least a nominal sense thereof anyway) <i>requires</i> some sort of makeshift Leviathan prop (law, amendment, regulation) to support/enforce it rather than the <i>damned</i> people themselves (<i>self</i> control, <i>self</i> government), then society is already toast. Forget "patching" it up. Demolish it!<br /><br />It's a nominal corpse already, but it's still twitchin' in terminal agony. Maybe it needs to be put out of its misery once and for all.<br /><br />Yet, even a nation in the throes of death and destruction, heeding the 2 Chronicles 7:14 admonition is always a possibility, but the proud and pious among us won't take it to heart.<br /><br />Lastly, I've long been convinced that the now tired and very old "go along to get along" mantra is pure nonsense, unless you care nothing for the positions, beliefs, and overall worldview you were <i>deceived</i> in thinking you held steadfast to. If it means war rather than a faux "peace" will materialize, then so be it. If, speaking on an individual level, it means you will be conspicuous rather than inconspicuous to the crowd, possibly irritate the crowd, piss off the crowd, etc., etc., then so be it.<br /><br />[continued below]dixiedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-2060866469506755432010-07-08T20:59:56.255-06:002010-07-08T20:59:56.255-06:00"Much more attention needs to be paid to this..."Much more attention needs to be paid to this under-reported and under-appreciated aspect of eminent domain. While the criminal classes ruling over us are avaricious, mendacious, and murderous, they are not stupid. They are fully aware of the impending consequences of their tyranny and are not about to suffer them themselves."<br /><br />I suspect that transgenic & gmo crops are intended to drive us off the land as well. The small farmer's mistaken notion that he can 'compete' in a global market using this monstrous technology has nearly eliminated all other seed crops in our state. <br /><br />Between BT corn & 'round-up ready' corn, sunflowers, soy, canola, & soon to be alfalfa there will not be a healthy non-gmo organism left in Farmland, USA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-6011948344597345942010-07-08T15:14:15.898-06:002010-07-08T15:14:15.898-06:00If they offered me 9500 p/acre I would immediately...If they offered me 9500 p/acre I would immediately take the money, renounce my citizenship and expatriate to a country like Botswana. An african country actively recruiting white farmers.<br />The current regime ruling us doesn't deserve to have the hardworking industrious folk like these farmers living here. The disgusting slobs lording over us have no ability whatsoever to plant seeds and create food. Without the knowledge of the people who work the land for a living these parasites are fucked. Just look at Zimbabwe for an example. ( without foreign aid Mugabe would be as skinny as the people he is screwing) It might as well be arid land without the institutional knowledge to make things happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-41767979528002818542010-07-08T12:38:34.188-06:002010-07-08T12:38:34.188-06:00We can all rest assured that as long as the Africa...We can all rest assured that as long as the African Virus remains in the White House, <b><i>NONE</i></b> of his criminal patrons from the Windy City's political machinery, Dicky Daley most prominent among them, will EVER face the possibility of federal RICO charges that they so richly and obviously deserve for the scams mentioned in this article.<br /><br />One simply HAS to believe that Rod Blagojevich, the sole exception so far, was targeted for elimination well in advance of his arrest and indictment on federal corruption charges. The fact that he is not going down quietly hints that he's got dirt on some very important people and that he's prepared to take them down with him.liberranterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-21304992832594341332010-07-08T08:09:39.832-06:002010-07-08T08:09:39.832-06:00There's a problem when "just compensation...There's a problem when "just compensation" is bereft of the proper understanding of a "just exchange of property." There is no justice in any exchange of goods unless it is a voluntary exchange. <br /><br />A just price is determined by a voluntary buyer and a voluntary seller, usually guided by the overall market value of the goods in question. The State throwing a bunch of FRN's at someone after taking his land is like a robber throwing $8,000 at someone after taking his Rolex at gunpoint. It does not make the act just.Sans Authoritasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-88651257100068994262010-07-06T22:00:56.396-06:002010-07-06T22:00:56.396-06:00Yup, I see it now too, in America, no one really o...Yup, I see it now too, in America, no one really owns anything, the government does, and it can do anything, afterall, it determines the definitions of words and interprets the laws,... it is all-powerful?<br /><br />Why resist?<br />Why don't those people in Peotone just embrace their serfdom and celebrate their status as helots?<br />They must think they're Spartans or something? Private property? Hmph... aint no such thing. Or so it seems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-14116676098503666452010-07-06T18:10:12.699-06:002010-07-06T18:10:12.699-06:00Ask the question...
What would happen if the "...Ask the question...<br />What would happen if the "bunny" field, aka oHare, was rendered unusable?<br />It would be quite convenient to have everything lined up for a "next generation" field outside the contamination zone. <br />Glad to be out of that state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-44252988423183059142010-07-06T18:10:12.495-06:002010-07-06T18:10:12.495-06:00Ask the question...
What would happen if the "...Ask the question...<br />What would happen if the "bunny" field, aka oHare, was rendered unusable?<br />It would be quite convenient to have everything lined up for a "next generation" field outside the contamination zone. <br />Glad to be out of that state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-7209832022080337652010-07-06T18:10:12.494-06:002010-07-06T18:10:12.494-06:00Ask the question...
What would happen if the "...Ask the question...<br />What would happen if the "bunny" field, aka oHare, was rendered unusable?<br />It would be quite convenient to have everything lined up for a "next generation" field outside the contamination zone. <br />Glad to be out of that state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-2471350647845628932010-07-06T15:56:35.939-06:002010-07-06T15:56:35.939-06:00Even though the money for pork-laden public works ...<i>Even though the money for pork-laden public works projects may soon evaporate, the Peotone Landgrab will leave the political class in possession of thousands of acres of prime farmland -- which, as Jim Rogers points out, may soon be the most valuable commodity on the planet. </i><br /><br />Much more attention needs to be paid to this under-reported and under-appreciated aspect of eminent domain. While the criminal classes ruling over us are avaricious, mendacious, and murderous, they are not stupid. They are fully aware of the impending consequences of their tyranny and are not about to suffer them themselves.liberranterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-70038331882582871652010-07-06T15:18:40.634-06:002010-07-06T15:18:40.634-06:00Excellent writeup of an outrageous action by a gan...Excellent writeup of an outrageous action by a gang of criminal thugs. Thank you, Grigg!Aaron Kinneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12059982934663353474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-82111786448488985872010-07-06T12:56:43.759-06:002010-07-06T12:56:43.759-06:00Troy, I fixed that error while working on this mor...Troy, I fixed that error while working on this morning's update:<br /><br />"What distinguishes the Peotone Landgrab from others like it is the fact that the underlying project is a palpable fraud."<br /><br />Thanks for the help with proof-reading; it really is difficult to be one's own copy editor!William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-26162938950016779172010-07-06T12:43:27.932-06:002010-07-06T12:43:27.932-06:00I think part of a paragraph is missing:
"land...I think part of a paragraph is missing:<br />"landgrab from dozens of others like it is the fact that the underlying project is a palpable fraud."Troyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09548577906431033786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-60426397459981287032010-07-06T10:40:15.464-06:002010-07-06T10:40:15.464-06:00My family has "owned" the same parcel of...My family has "owned" the same parcel of land in west Texas for over 100 years. It has occurred to me that we've never actually owned the land we have merely rented it for all those years.<br /><br />I'm not convinced that the individual ever actually owns anything. If we refuse, or cannot afford, to pay the rent the state will send some one with a gun to collect the money or seize the property. If we resist, the state will kill us and take the property.<br /><br />[W3]W W Woodwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13326046112820327760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-23650373257954844612010-07-06T10:30:50.530-06:002010-07-06T10:30:50.530-06:00You missed a big issue on this one, Will, which he...You missed a big issue on this one, Will, which helps expose the hypocrisy.<br /><br />In VIOLATION of their contractual agreements with the FAA, and over the massive objections of pilots nationwide, the Evil Windbag City stole and bulldozed the famous Meigs Field in Lake Michigan, which provided business and personal aviation access to downtown and the convention center, but evidently not enough graft and corruption:<br /><br />http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2906487.stm<br /><br />http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/030403meigs.html<br /><br />Talk about "two-faced", or, to wax Biblical, "double-minded!"Markhttp://www.markniwot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-31390804061571456672010-07-06T09:59:45.028-06:002010-07-06T09:59:45.028-06:00Why would anyone want to fly into that shit ridden...Why would anyone want to fly into that shit ridden cesspool on Lake Michigan.jankasaurusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58624217265213406382010-07-05T18:37:47.460-06:002010-07-05T18:37:47.460-06:00Thanks for the catch!Thanks for the catch!William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-40103712661890216582010-07-05T18:27:24.785-06:002010-07-05T18:27:24.785-06:00"compliment O'Hare and Midway" =>..."compliment O'Hare and Midway" => "complement O'Hare and Midway"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com