tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post887920381048749891..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: What Rough Beast... (EXTREMELY Important Second Update, 10/8)William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-66371690297312347492008-10-13T19:44:00.000-06:002008-10-13T19:44:00.000-06:00Anyone care to guess what will happen when that $7...Anyone care to guess what will happen when that $700-$900 billion hits our FRACTIONAL RESERVE banking system? The ugliness is just beginning.FloppyTilleyHathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14275147887190756032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-12190819381831835032008-10-11T09:05:00.000-06:002008-10-11T09:05:00.000-06:00"In the event of a 'bank holiday,' you won't be pe..."In the event of a 'bank holiday,' you won't be permitted to withdraw cash, and it's likely that debit cards wouldn't work." -- Will Grigg<BR/><BR/>There's an important distinction here which might be pertinent. Debit cards (and checks) simply move money from one account to another. But the banking system as a whole doesn't lose any deposits. Indeed, if Usgov starts buying shares in banks, it may end up being all the same bank, or just a handful of banks as in Canada.<BR/><BR/>BUT, converting deposits to cash takes reserves out the banking system. Because banks have leveraged their deposits (via the so-called money multiplier), each $1,000 withdrawn in cash and not redeposited may force the banking system to shed up to $10,000 in assets (meaning loans and securities).<BR/><BR/>So from a banking perspective, limiting cash withdrawals is much more urgent than interfering with the use of debit cards and checks. In fact, if one wanted to minimize the disruption to the economy connected with a bank holiday, sheeple would be told to use debit cards for every purchase, instead of unavailable cash. This would achieve a long-standing government objective of shifting to a transparent, cash-free, all-electronic economy in which total monitoring and profiling of each sheeple-depositor can be implemented.<BR/><BR/>One thing I'm going to check with my Argentine friends is whether their equivalent of our ACH (Automated Clearing House for electronic transfers) was shut down during the 2001-2002 crisis. It may have kept functioning. The banksters' priority (there and here) is to KEEP DEPOSITS WITHIN THE SYSTEM, not letting them leak out as cash, which forces pathological deleveraging upon the system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-47382664942620474692008-10-11T02:36:00.000-06:002008-10-11T02:36:00.000-06:00The synthesis, the third way is almost complete. A...The synthesis, the third way is almost complete. A melding of communism and capitalism. We saved Russia's bacon in WWII for this reason. Why were ships laden with gold going to Murmansk? The best Russian generals were generals mud and winter. They would have fell to Jerry the Germinal if not for the jeeps, tanks, planes, supplies we were shipping to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-49671982675667134152008-10-10T15:12:00.000-06:002008-10-10T15:12:00.000-06:00David in East Texas & Dixie Dog, et al.,I want...David in East Texas & Dixie Dog, et al.,<BR/><BR/>I want to give the Christians and other believing types on here a thought for the day: In Genesis, God said, "Let us create Man in Our own image."<BR/><BR/>Meaning, God in His wisdom gave Man free will, to do good or to do evil, as Man chooses. (And this is why there is evil in this world. It MUST be - read on.) Why?<BR/><BR/>Because, if Man chooses good over evil of his own free will, God is pleased and Man is rewarded.<BR/><BR/>If Man is FORCED to choose good, because if he does not the State will punish him, then the fact that Man chooses good is just plain common sense and no sign of having understood the REASONS for choosing good over evil. There is no benefit to forced choice. Why should God be pleased or reward us for doing good if that is the only choice we are offered?<BR/><BR/>This is the reason why coercing other people to follow Jesus and his teachings does neither them nor us any good at all. They MUST make that choice for themselves. The Muslims too make this mistake, and try to force people to follow Islam. A forced Muslim is no Muslim at all. And a forced Christian is no Christian at all.<BR/><BR/>The best way to change people's minds is by example, not by coercion. The way Christianity took hold and spread in its early days was by the heathen seeing the example of the Christian martyrs, how they went to their deaths with joyous faith. Onllokers were astonished that they remained so calm and happy, and their example made more converts than any amount of preaching would have done.<BR/><BR/>This is the principal reason why it is good for the Church that there is separation of Church and State. You start passing laws about religion, you then take away free will, and you kill religion dead on the spot, and take away God's opportunity to shower His grace and blessings on His children.<BR/><BR/>Let us leave the State out of it, and set an example in our own lives. Jesus said. "My kingdom is not of this world." Exactly - His kingdom is in the hearts of His followers. That is where it should stay.<BR/><BR/>Yours sincerely,<BR/>Lemuel Gulliver.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-30591302542210559102008-10-10T11:06:00.000-06:002008-10-10T11:06:00.000-06:00I'd like to buttress Dixie Dog's comments concerni...I'd like to buttress Dixie Dog's comments concerning the Power Elites' primary means of achieving world gov't ends: Regionalism. Regionalism brought on via economic and political "crises".<BR/><BR/>A year ago, I listed in Will Grigg's comment section the ten regional blocs which are currently in the incubation stage with the notable exception of 1)the Russian Union (CIS-1991), 2)the European Union (1993) and 3)the African Union (2002). Here are the names of the seven other developing political-economic blocs:<BR/>4)East Asian Union:<BR/> Asia Times <BR/> "Thinking the Unthinkable, A <BR/> Confucian Union"<BR/> 4/7/2005<BR/> Excerpt: "By about 2020, the <BR/> East Asian Union will be the <BR/> world's most powerful bloc,.."<BR/>5)South Asian Union:<BR/> India Daily<BR/> "South Asian Union - A Growing<BR/> Reality That Can Change The<BR/> World"<BR/> 2/12/2005<BR/> Excerpt: "All of us in South Asia<BR/> are aware that the idea of a <BR/> South Asian Union in the realm of<BR/> economic integration is one whose<BR/> time has come."<BR/>6)Central Asian Union:<BR/> Kazinform News<BR/> "Kurultai Participants Back <BR/> Kazakh President's Idea To <BR/> Create The Central Asian Union"<BR/> 9/20/2006<BR/>7)South American Union:<BR/> FOX News<BR/> "South American Leaders Discuss<BR/> Creating Continental Union"<BR/> 12/10/2006<BR/>8)North American Union:<BR/> Council On Foreign Relations<BR/> "Building A North American <BR/> Community" 175 pages<BR/> 5/2005<BR/> The Fraser Institute<BR/> "The Case For The Amero: The<BR/> Economics And Politics Of A <BR/> North American Union"<BR/> 1999<BR/>9)Middle East Union:<BR/> Middle East Free Trade Area<BR/> (MEFTA)<BR/> "White House Press Release:<BR/> Office Of The Press Secretary"<BR/> 6/9/2004<BR/>10)Asian Pacific Union:<BR/> Sydney Morning Herald<BR/> "Push For Union With New Zealand"<BR/> 12/6/2006<BR/><BR/>Daniel 7:23-24<BR/><BR/>"Thus he said:'The fourth beast <BR/> will be a fourth kingdom on the <BR/> earth, which will be DIFFERENT<BR/> from all the other kingdoms, and <BR/> it will devour the WHOLE earth and<BR/> tread it down and crush it. As for<BR/> the TEN horns, out of this kingdom<BR/> TEN kings will arise; and another<BR/> [the antichrist] will arise after <BR/> them, and he will be different<BR/> from the previous ones and will <BR/> subdue three kings [three of the <BR/> ten horns/kings].'" NASB<BR/><BR/>Revelation 17:12-13<BR/><BR/>"And the TEN horns which you saw <BR/> are TEN kings, who have not yet<BR/> received a kingdom, but they<BR/> receive authority as kings with <BR/> the beast [the antichrist] for one<BR/> hour. These have one purpose and <BR/> they give their power and <BR/> authority to the beast." NASBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-63898173089544737282008-10-10T07:20:00.000-06:002008-10-10T07:20:00.000-06:00Dixie Dog, you said: I rather stand back and from ...Dixie Dog, you said:<BR/><BR/> I rather stand back and from afar see, not only the problem (corrupt thuggish government agent), but also the source of the problem: a regular red/blue/magenta commoner who votes for ( in the case of politicians), supports, and naturally even provides (all culled from someone's neighborhood) the personage of said thuggish, corrupt government agent/bureaucrat/politician<BR/><BR/>IOW, the thuggish, corrupt government agents/bureaucrats/politicians we are all increasingly graced with represent a coarse reflection of us. Again, the big picture.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Great point.<BR/><BR/>I see in your observation the recognition that there is some truth behind the adage: "We have met the enemy and he is US !"<BR/><BR/>This is so true. Most of us Americans talk of how we hate big, intrustive government - yet we get more & more all the time. <BR/><BR/>I highly suspect we don't know how it is hypocritical to say this, and then out of the other side of our mouths we send our kids to school on the neighbors dime, via property taxes, get a government bennie, however innocent seeming (WIC, SSI Disability, Welfare, etc), that must be paid for by our more productive neighbors with a threat of violence, state sponsored if they balk at paying.<BR/><BR/>In short, we have, rationalized covetousness, and ignored the demands of Righteousness. And, sadly (athiests can cheeer here:), the most overtly religious amongst us are freqently the worst offenders. <BR/><BR/>I'm guessing that we think our vigorous service to the LORD, measured by outward means, frequent church attendance, generous giving are performed and the 'more weighty' demands of the Law, righteousness, holiness and purity are thus ignored. <BR/><BR/>The real missing ingredient seems to be a willingness to apply the demands of the Law, that we put upon blatant sinners, upon ourselves first. For example:<BR/><BR/>Instead of dissing same sex marriage supporters as a primary activity, how many Christian men amongst us make sure their heterosexual marriages are loving to their wives & children & glorifying to Christ ?<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't that be a far more effective way of demonstrating the futility of the Sodomite addiction, by showcasing our satisfaction with the circumstances God, in His Providence, has placed us in ? <BR/><BR/>My point here isn't to discuss strategy on how we effectively defeat Cultural evil. <BR/><BR/>My point is to say that the best anti-dote for tyranny on any scale (small scale - Sodomy, or large scale - state tyranny), is for us to renounce our addiction to sin & selfishness, and return to the "Principles of Self & Civil Government" (to coin the Founding Fathers). In my study of History, I've come to the conclusion that this is the only firm foundation for our Republic.<BR/><BR/>Self-Government, under God, is another term for Self-Control, is what our nation struggles over; and as Scripture points out "the fruit of the Spirit is Self-Control".<BR/><BR/>Re-establish that, and we'll have a peaceful, productive 2nd American Revolution !<BR/><BR/>Great stimulating discussion here !<BR/><BR/><BR/>David in East TexasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-34257792376347118992008-10-10T07:17:00.000-06:002008-10-10T07:17:00.000-06:00"Old Joe went to seminary too. What should we make..."Old Joe went to seminary too. What should we make of that?"<BR/><BR/>Probably the same thing that we should make of Hitler having been born a Catholic. (He later used the Church he was baptized in for artillery practice.) <BR/><BR/>What should we make of that? We should understand that fallen-away Catholics, apostates from the faith, are the most warped, dangerous individuals who ever walked the earth, because they had the Truth, but wilfully rejected it. <BR/><BR/> -Sans AuthoritasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-49234773659419914732008-10-10T02:17:00.000-06:002008-10-10T02:17:00.000-06:00Can fascism save our way of life? Since privacy is...Can fascism save our way of life? Since privacy is a thing of the past I'm sure the serfs won't mind this round of friendly fascism. It will be like importing bookmarks from one browser to another but sadly some eggs will have to be broken.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-13378129964188714882008-10-10T02:07:00.000-06:002008-10-10T02:07:00.000-06:00Hal Turner Shows New AMERO Currencyhttp://www.yout...Hal Turner Shows New AMERO <BR/><BR/>Currencyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge2J2lNusJsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-40264315790007010992008-10-10T02:03:00.000-06:002008-10-10T02:03:00.000-06:00dixiedog, no offense taken. I'm with ya man, ...dixiedog, no offense taken. I'm with ya man, for better or worse. I just wanted to clear things up a bit from my end.<BR/><BR/>Hey everybody, take a look at the Amero coins offered on eBay. Hurry up and get 'em while you can!<BR/><BR/>R. Cozine<BR/><BR/>http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1313&_nkw=Amero&_sacat=See-All-CategoriesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-87869758451389169062008-10-09T21:45:00.000-06:002008-10-09T21:45:00.000-06:00enjoy your writing. The Community organizer tag r...enjoy your writing. The Community organizer tag referencing Stalin was a real cheap shot. Old Joe went to seminary too. What should we make of that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51573888528400144902008-10-09T20:37:00.000-06:002008-10-09T20:37:00.000-06:00R. Cozine, I'm sorry about how that "sounded" neve...R. Cozine, I'm sorry about how that "sounded" never mind how it read.<BR/><BR/>It wasn't my intention to beat ya over the head or anything, but sometimes how I write makes it seem like I'm angry, ill-mannered, or whatever when that's not the case at all.<BR/><BR/>It's also probably why I don't bother commenting frequently anymore on political blogs. After all, the reality is what it is and we cannot individually do anything to change the course. Besides, all that can be said about the economy, "government thugs," abstractly speaking, has been said by the thinking few of us and there's a lot of repetition no doubt.<BR/><BR/>However, that said, I like reading Will's posts primarily to glean and grok some of the fine details and minuscule subplots/events that make up part of the big picture.<BR/><BR/>What's the big picture? Well, the big picture, in my mind, has been for many years that, in short, America is gradually becoming a byword and will be relegated to complete irrelevance on the world stage. It's just that for years and years since I read various eschatological texts in the 1980s that would infer America's irrelevance in the "latter days," long before the internet became a household word and everyday tool, I was always puzzled wondering HOW exactly it would eventually become irrelevant. Needless to say, the HOW is becoming ever more clearer everyday.<BR/><BR/>Beyond that, I'd say complete government control is inevitable for most Americans as well as most of the rest of the hapless masses of the world. And in it all, the commoners themselves have been, are now, or soon will be, however unknowingly or ignorantly, gleefully greasing the skids to launch and propel the growth of government and its total control over everyone.<BR/><BR/>Here's probably where I digress somewhat from how Will (and most here) sees these many issues we face. Where Will focuses in with the scope and sees a "thuggish, corrupt government agent/bureaucrat/politician" coming around every corner, I rather stand back and from afar see, not only the problem (corrupt thuggish government agent), but also the source of the problem: a regular red/blue/magenta commoner who votes for ( in the case of politicians), supports, and naturally even provides (all culled from someone's neighborhood) the personage of said thuggish, corrupt government agent/bureaucrat/politician.<BR/><BR/>IOW, the thuggish, corrupt government agents/bureaucrats/politicians we are all increasingly graced with represent a coarse reflection of us. Again, the big picture.<BR/><BR/>So, I read Will to get some of the mundane details about the myriad events occurring, many of which were otherwise unknown to me, but rather than it radically changing my big picture view in any meaningful way, it reinforces and supports it more than not.<BR/><BR/>Sigh, I still seem to manage every now and again to write a long, meandering comment...argh.dixiedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-15045032659846607932008-10-09T19:30:00.000-06:002008-10-09T19:30:00.000-06:00Will, I read you back in your New American magazin...Will, I read you back in your New American magazine days, have your "Freedom On The Altar" video, and was delighted to re-discover you on LewRockwell.com last year. <BR/><BR/>Your perspective is much appreciated, and you are a wordsmith & logician of first rank.<BR/><BR/>We almost moved to Idaho (Moscow area), but the LORD showed us East Texas as a viable alternative. <BR/><BR/>Our 5 children are homeschooled by us, by Grace, and we are endeavoring to teach them a rigorous Biblical worldview, to be wise Scripturally speaking and not fooled by the NewSpeak of this PC mess in which we are forced to swim.<BR/><BR/>We're redoubling our efforts as you've suggested. Building a small solar electric system, making sure the God, Guns, Groceries, Gasoline are in order along with somewhat likeminded neighbors & local church are included, as well.<BR/><BR/>As you stated, we fondly hope this is overblown preparation. But I suspect not: these are some serious difficulties we face as a nation. <BR/><BR/>As you & other posters have suggested, it's past time for Americans to find Godly courage & character, to the point that many won't know they lack it, until times are hitting the danger zone. <BR/><BR/>We truly do stand by the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, alone. He is truly ruler of the Nations, "ruler of the Kings of the earth" as Revelation declares. Our nation & many others, have thumbed thier noses at Him for a long season. I suspect that our situation is a bit like outlined in Malachi where the LORD takes note of those who trust in Him & writes their names in a 'book of remembrance'. <BR/><BR/>I'd encourage you all to look that passage up and see how it applies, in 'crisis time' to those who truly do 'Fear the LORD' and want to see Righteousness prevail: "...for [we] shall be filled."<BR/><BR/>Again, thanks for the great commentary and a cyberhome to visit that reminds us we're not crazy, after all.<BR/><BR/>David in East TexasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-50446948663147336872008-10-09T15:27:00.000-06:002008-10-09T15:27:00.000-06:00dixiedog, the elusive point is certainly not lost ...dixiedog, the elusive point is certainly not lost on me, although I can't say the same for most of my friends and acquaintances. I was just chiming in with my two cents regarding my discussions with people about the banker "bailout" since many here are of the opinion that most opposed it for reasons of class. That was not my experience, although it may be true of the population in general.<BR/>I certainly am not in need of wipers and I share your beliefs about the New World Order; I have been doing my part to sound the alarm for the better part of two decades.<BR/><BR/>R. CozineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-48133063110242389052008-10-09T15:02:00.000-06:002008-10-09T15:02:00.000-06:00Perhaps, Will, it is time (perhaps past that) that...Perhaps, Will, it is time (perhaps past that) that we see wholesale secession from the union.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16565620274260288512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-55255444690686083912008-10-09T15:01:00.000-06:002008-10-09T15:01:00.000-06:00Keeping up with the Jones' is spending money you d...Keeping up with the Jones' is spending money you don't have on things you don't need to impress people you can't stand. A phony, fake, poseur farce like the rest of this third world apostate hypocrisy. Shining city on the hill my left ass cheek.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-80428802112355285282008-10-09T14:57:00.000-06:002008-10-09T14:57:00.000-06:00It's time for another war run by that strategic mb...It's time for another war run by that strategic mba silverspoon genius. After all war is the only way to distract from a third world, serve-ice economy. Just read some articles where Moscow is calling for an anti-US alliance. Regime change always comes from without especially when the citizenry is a spineless bunch of comfort whores. Speaking of Germans let's ask them about taking on the world on how it works out in the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-63185284382505747982008-10-09T11:21:00.000-06:002008-10-09T11:21:00.000-06:00Will, great post as always. I am glad you are stre...Will, great post as always. I am glad you are stressing food, water, guns/ammo, gasoline and getting with neighbors, and, of course, praying to Jesus. May I make another suggestion for those who have the financial means to do so: take that money in the bank and buy land, preferably land with water under it, take some of the rest of the money and have a well dug, and take a bit more and buy one of those cabin kits and build a "redoubt" so to speak...or buy a used decent trailer, or a used RV.<BR/><BR/>What with the October 1 army relocation to US cities already taking place (but don't know what cities), THIS IS THE TIME TO GET OUT OF THE CITIES/SUBURBS! Head for the hills!<BR/><BR/>http://www.somethinghappeninghere.netD.L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18210410457920036147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-90560421346100998322008-10-09T10:05:00.000-06:002008-10-09T10:05:00.000-06:00Hey Will, just caught this link from another blog ...Hey Will, just caught this link from another blog and it's "dead" on (no pun intended). An excerpt from <A HREF="http://newswithviews.com/Daubenmire/dave131.htm" REL="nofollow">THE CONGREGATION OF THE DEAD</A>:<BR/><BR/><I>The once great “shining city on a hill” is gasping for breath. Everywhere you turn you are faced with the harsh truth that the death rattle has begun. We are a dying people controlled by a dying government, infected with the dead leadership of dead men, who chew on a dead gospel served-up in dead churches, by dead pastors living out a dead faith.</I><BR/><BR/>Ouch! I <A HREF="http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2006/12/new-police-professionalism-serious.html#c116745072257577222" REL="nofollow">couldn't (and didn't) say it better myself</A>.dixiedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-73731777038193628862008-10-09T09:27:00.000-06:002008-10-09T09:27:00.000-06:00Most of the people I know who opposed the bailout,...<I>Most of the people I know who opposed the bailout, and that's most of the people I know, did so because they understand that it's fundamentally wrong for governments to bail out businesses. They did not oppose it simply because the plan would bail out unctuous rich bankers.</I><BR/><BR/>The perhaps elusive point, however, is that it is wrong for government to "bail out," "subsidize," "ANYONE - be they old people ("legal" narcotics, medical care, etc.), young people (student loans), businesses (farms, banks, corps, mom & pops, etc.), filthy rich individuals, dirt poor individuals, or anything in between! Yet, I say the electorate would not have minded $700 billion from the trough one damn bit.<BR/><BR/>Greed encompasses the entire socio-economic strata. There is much greed amongst the rich, poor, and middle-class (although this segment is now essentially extinct).<BR/><BR/>How do you think the people in question become "unctuous rich bankers" in the first place? Because they run <I>businesses</I> in the form of banks. Now, whether you and the flock of folk with whom you associate view "richies on Wall Street" and their attendant banks "businesses" or not is immaterial and irrelevant.<BR/><BR/>The people (average joes and janes) wouldn't have riled themselves up into a frenzy and lit up the Capitol switchboards in a "rage against the [Washing---] machine" if $700 billion was to be doled out to the masses.<BR/><BR/>Are the wipers working now?<BR/><BR/>And speaking of a clear view, the big picture is much clearer now in my mind that this ongoing crisis is the tipping point, <I>finally</I>, where Amerika crashes and burns economically, and by extension socially, after free falling from atop the hill.<BR/><BR/>The new king of the mountain will then be the European Union since it will not be as damaged by the now worldwide economic woes as is Amerika. The NAU can now be consummated once and for all for sure due to this crisis as the people's opposition crumbles as will the notable erstwhile resistance to ceding all remaining power from the member states to the EU Leviathan in Brussels.<BR/><BR/>The much vaunted New World Order may <I>finally</I> be clearly seen in the distance as we approach at blazing speed.<BR/><BR/>Economic hardship, above everything else, is what inevitably makes the elites' desired agendas (everywhere) more palpable to the commoners and masses of their respective countries. The commoners' initial resistance crumbles and they fold their tent, sadly.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and let's not forget about Asia and Africa being part of the unification party. Hee-haw! Yes, indeed, we'll see an <A HREF="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23812768-601,00.html" REL="nofollow">Asian Union</A> and <A HREF="http://www.africa-union.org/" REL="nofollow">African Union</A> finally consummated eventually as well. Although the Asian Union may have to come about by stages (i.e. <A HREF="http://www.southasianunion.net/" REL="nofollow">South Asian Union</A>, <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asian_Union" REL="nofollow">Central Asian Union</A>, and so on), but the point is that there will be an Asian Union.<BR/><BR/>World government brought to fruition rather quickly by worldwide economic hardship.<BR/><BR/><sarcasm>Lovely, ain't it?</sarcasm>dixiedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58448969655158443842008-10-08T23:53:00.000-06:002008-10-08T23:53:00.000-06:00Most of the people I know who opposed the bailout,...Most of the people I know who opposed the bailout, and that's most of the people I know, did so because they understand that it's fundamentally wrong for governments to bail out businesses. They did not oppose it simply because the plan would bail out unctuous rich bankers.<BR/><BR/>R. CozineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-49877981156825126302008-10-08T21:38:00.000-06:002008-10-08T21:38:00.000-06:00I'll also voice consenting agreement to Dixie Dog'...I'll also voice consenting agreement to Dixie Dog's opinion that it isn't the amount being spent, but rather where.<BR/><BR/>I guess my dad raised me to save and pay as I go. The only debt I have is a mortgage everything else is paid for in cash or not purchased. Debt is the ultimate slaver in my opinion.<BR/><BR/>The days ahead could well be dark indeed. I think rural areas may fare better than the cities though, couldn't imagine being caught in one of those concrete jungles in times like these.<BR/><BR/>It also occurs to me that should the worst happen, lead may be more valuable than gold (except in my case arrows will be a close second and broadheads go through kevlar like butter - sans trauma plates of course). Better decide now - are you willing to put the cross hairs on a a cop or a bureaucrat; better make that choice before you have to. I doubt the ninja clad class will give you much time to contemplate the issue when the time comes.<BR/><BR/>Peace . . . hopefully it won't elude us.<BR/><BR/>Sic Semper TyrannisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-43470513524226714852008-10-08T19:41:00.000-06:002008-10-08T19:41:00.000-06:00Anonymous, there was a report (hastily denied, of ...Anonymous, there was a report (hastily denied, of course) that China's banks had been ordered to stop lending to US banks -- <BR/><BR/>http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSPEK16693720080925<BR/><BR/>Beijing and Moscow were prime beneficiaries of the Fannie/Freddie bailout. So we already know that Washington has made it a priority to pay off foreign bondholders, using as much taxpayer wealth (either confiscated through taxes or plundered through inflation) as necessary to do so.<BR/><BR/>I'm not savvy enough to explain the significance of today's coordinated rate cut, but I'll check with someone who is and let you know what I find out.William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-29857306179288267892008-10-08T19:35:00.000-06:002008-10-08T19:35:00.000-06:00Bob, I'm not sure where that portrait came from, b...Bob, I'm not sure where that portrait came from, but it's romanticized to such an extent that it must be the handiwork of a True Believer.William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-83639637424568672342008-10-08T19:24:00.000-06:002008-10-08T19:24:00.000-06:00Dear Will,Our world is spinning out of control. So...Dear Will,<BR/><BR/>Our world is spinning out of control. So much is happening behind the scenes that the media is not talking about. It is really scary. <BR/><BR/>The world economy is disintegrating before our eyes. As I explained in another letter, it is all an illusion due to the conditioning of our minds over centuries to equate money and wealth. They USED to be equivalent, when money was made of rare metals, but since 1913 money has by stages become a purely imaginary thing divorced from any connection to wealth.<BR/><BR/>I honestly do not know if this was a plot - if it was, the instigators would have to be so powerful, so brilliant, so evil, and so far hidden in the background that nobody knows who they are or suspects that it is a plot. I certainly do not know that and cannot say so.<BR/><BR/>Here is the worst case scenario, which, let us pray, probably will not happen, but could.<BR/><BR/>Obama is elected. There remain 76 days before Obama takes office. In that time, the world economy finally collapses, all banks are shut down temporarily pending a resolution of their financial positions and the delivery to them of literal truckloads of paper money to satisfy those who want to take out their deposits. Credit cards are suspended. <BR/><BR/>Depending how long this process takes (and if it IS a plot, it would be certain to take too long) there will begin to be food riots, gas riots, and looting of stores by people with no money, but who have guns or pitchforks or whatever they can lay their hands on. <BR/><BR/>Martial law is announced, the Constitution is suspended and the President declares that a Committee will rule by decree. The terrified Congress, defended by a cordon of tanks and guns from enraged mobs of hundreds of thousands rampaging through Washington, decides that Obama cannot be allowed to attempt "on-the-job-training" and civil order must be restored, and passes all power to the Presidential Committee of the POTUS, VP, and the Joint Chiefs. Obama's inauguration and the reinstatement of the Constitution, while not cancelled, must be postponed until things settle down. In other words, indefinitely.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps, just perhaps, what we are now seeing is the famous "October Surprise" in a form nobody expected.<BR/><BR/>And there is more - given that the whole world is awash in dollars, and this is the reason the economic collapse is spreading everywhere, now is the perfect time for the US government to declare that everyone must work together to avert mass starvation, a breakdown of civilization, and a new Dark Age, and therefore a World Government with the power to dictate to national governments and settle or discharge debts must be established immediately.<BR/><BR/>The Neocon dream, and the world's worst nightmare, finally becomes reality.<BR/><BR/>Let us hope all of the above is pure hysterical drivel of the most inane kind, and that none of it comes to pass.<BR/><BR/>Yours sincerely,<BR/>Lemuel GulliverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com