tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post8280429147683722297..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: The Homeland Security State: Boyz With Lethal ToyzWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-30799074617367819262011-03-22T21:25:27.215-06:002011-03-22T21:25:27.215-06:00Yea i hate to tell ya but i live 20 min from this ...Yea i hate to tell ya but i live 20 min from this and LaCrosse county where one bearcat came from is a likely target, 2 major mississippi bridges and a power plant and spent nuclear rod holding facility so it is justified to get one and no one has any form of air support and the only SWAT like team is from LaCrosse and its like 6-8 dudes. If the guy paid taxes he wouldnt have problems, its an evil that we all have to deal with.dag4wdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07540732526247701294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-3832306234998673662010-01-11T19:13:12.495-07:002010-01-11T19:13:12.495-07:00I,too had an issue with Richland Cty. over a fault...I,too had an issue with Richland Cty. over a faulty sewer hookup. County official Harriet from zoning told me to fix it & gave me a deadline, instead of helping me force the engineering firm to make it right. The DNR wouldn't help, nor any of the idiots that work for me. (I pay my taxes!) I have the resources, so I hired a lawyer & told him to sue the village, & everyone else he could think of. We finally settled for a sewage pump in the basement paid for by the village & the engineering firm. I imagine it will lower the homes value, but a fullscale lawsuit would have cost my neighbors, some of whom barely scrape by now. These arrogant lawmen in this county really pissed me off last year when they claimed my 17 yr. old step son gave them permission to search my house. I told them a 17 yr. old doesn't give permission to do anything. Then they tried twice to serve papers on him without showing me the papers. The second time they realized I meant it. I signed for them. If they want to treat me in a legal, respectful, manner, I'll do anything to help them. If not then who knows how it will turn out. This ol' Marine, Viet Nam vet, (2 tours), Oathkeeper, don't scare worth a shit. Keep it legal, boys. Richland Cty. was responsible for the well. They should have made him whole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-82568870098502782002009-08-20T22:21:23.985-06:002009-08-20T22:21:23.985-06:00I grew up in Viola, WI graduated from Kickapoo Hig...I grew up in Viola, WI graduated from Kickapoo High School in 1999. I knew Robert and he was a nice guy, not only that, but he was smart and his grievances were legitimate. You see, once he paid off his debts, he didn't need money anymore and he didn't need the state to provide security for him or his assets because not only did he exercise his natural right of self-protection and self-representation, but he had a pretty good social safety net with all of the friends he made by being a compassionate and reasonable person. The last time I checked, the US Government was based on consent from the people, not coercion by the authorities. I could quote the Constitution, but I'm not going to spoon-feed you the facts, find this sh-t out for yourself. <br /><br />Robert Bayliss did not consent to government because he had a good reason to: he did not need it. It's too bad that he didn't take out a few deputies, SWAT members or agency representatives. It's too bad he didn't kill them all. I wish I could have helped. Next time I will, and next time, there will be blood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-20453218436436617692009-02-17T04:17:00.000-07:002009-02-17T04:17:00.000-07:00They facts on this site are wrong. IT WAS NOT ABO...They facts on this site are wrong. IT WAS NOT ABOUT TAXES!!!! It was about a man who shot at poeple- yes cops are poeple too- who where trying to serve civil service papers on him. That's right CIVIL service. Mr. Bayliss shot at the cops first. They weren't going to drag him off of his property. The cops were simply there to diliver a piece of paper that invited Mr. Bayliss to argue the facts on the piece of paper in court- CIVILLY! Instead, he chose to shoot at them. The police were then forced- by Mr. Bayliss- to act in the mannor that they did. The bloggers that complain that Police spent too much money to take Mr. Bayliss into custody might be right. The cops could have spent a lot less money and killed him. But the cops didn't. They did their job, and when they got the oppurtutity to take Mr. Bayliss into custody unharmed, they did so dispite the fact that he tried to kill some of them. The military has the benifit of "collatoral damage" and "friendly fire". The cops don't! Simply put, the cops are here to SAVE YOUR ASS. Cops, much like firefighters and our military, RUN INTO situations that people, such as this sites bloggers, run screaming FROM. We love our firefighters and military personell, but we hate cops. The fact is most, if not all, of the people on this site lack the balls or brains to have actually been involved in a situation like this. The fact that the standoff turned out like it did, without injury or casualty, is a testiment to our law enforcement community. All you bloggers can play "monday morning quarterback" all you want. Remember-NO ONE LIKES COPS BUT, EVENTUALLY EVERYBODY NEEDS ONE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-18206604621995416342009-02-09T23:20:00.000-07:002009-02-09T23:20:00.000-07:00the jury is back...Guilty on 13 of 17 felonys...no...the jury is back...Guilty on 13 of 17 felonys...now hopefully the court sysyem will continue to do it's job and put him away for a long, long time!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13367406151678114985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-70125707661242565552008-09-29T07:02:00.000-06:002008-09-29T07:02:00.000-06:00From rumors around Viola and from people I won't d...From rumors around Viola and from people I won't disclose, apparently he had assets in coin collections totalling over the limit for a PD. In court he agreed to have the coins sold the PD's offiice would receive their portion and he would get the rest. He signed the agreement and at another hearing stated that he never signed the agreement and called the signed document a forgery. Stories I've heard, not just from the Sheriff's Dept but from people who know him say he is kind of mentally unstable. Hearsay! I've never met him.<BR/><BR/>This summer when I went to donate my books to him the Sheriff's jailors wouldn't let me see him. Apparently, he must request a guest and I just showed up unannounced. I had to donate the books to the jail library and not to him directly, but I was assured he'd be told they were there.<BR/>I know and trust the Deputy I spoke with.<BR/><BR/>As for protecting hs liberties;<BR/>Regarding the criminal charges, not too much if he has a PD. The attorn ey will handle it. Andrew and Judge Leinweber are both just men. I trust he will get a fair trial procedurally.<BR/><BR/>Getting a fair jury may be more difficult. As you know, Richland County is a small county population wise and many people don't like violence. The guy shot at Marcia Marchokta? Hell, she's my meighbor! Hang the sonnuvabitch!!<BR/><BR/>I am friends with deputies from Richland and Vernon counties. I feel the tax and seizure laws need to be totally revised (repealed). Especially taking more property than what is owed. I personally think govt should not be allowed to seize property for delinquent taxes. But that is a separate rant!!! It is also why I can see his side even after he shot at people I like and respect.<BR/><BR/>But David, what can WE do??? Ok, ok:<BR/><BR/>Civil matters: 1. Raise money to pay his back taxes if the property has not already auctioned. 2. Try to get a lawyer for him to stay the auction if it has not already happened. 3. A real long shot Have an attorney sue the county for wrongful conversion of real property. Just off the top of my head.<BR/><BR/>Please be advised that none of this discussion is meant to constitute any legal advise from me. Just musings. Nor do these musing in any way constitute legal representation. In other words these are just thoughts and cannot relied upon for any legal action. Basically, I'm not practicing law without a license.<BR/><BR/>Good luck. Hope you are having fun at RonFest '08.<BR/><BR/>Yours in Liberty,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-20076835709438928182008-09-08T12:44:00.000-06:002008-09-08T12:44:00.000-06:00I see that reading comprehension isn't part of you...I see that reading comprehension isn't part of your toolkit. Go back and read, or have read to you, the portions of the essay describing how this ugly mess could have been avoided <I>without</I> lead being thrown, if somebody in the County government had simply given this poor schlep suitable redress.<BR/><BR/>"He fired shots at police officers"? Oh, my stars and garters! Scarcely a day goes by without tax-fattened gun thugs firing shots at perfectly innocent people, and we're supposed to assume that there's nothing innately wrong with that. <BR/><BR/>As I pointed out in the piece, Bayliss fired over the heads of the uniformed parasites who came to throw him off his land. I admire his restraint. In a state of nature he would have been within his rights to ventilate their empty craniums.William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-86710515954698207492008-09-08T12:36:00.000-06:002008-09-08T12:36:00.000-06:00"All of this manpower was mobilized, remember, to ..."All of this manpower was mobilized, remember, to conduct an assault on a solitary aging man who owed $5,737.01 in back taxes."<BR/><BR/>Nice attempt at propaganda, you tool. He fired shots at police officers. This old idiot doesn't deserve your praise; he deserves a Darwin Award. Goddamned imbeciles...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-50652613589290567412008-07-24T07:02:00.000-06:002008-07-24T07:02:00.000-06:00A powerful report on a sad state of affairs within...A powerful report on a sad state of affairs within this country. These artificial entities created by We The People believe they own us and all our property and can take it away for not paying them homage.<BR/><BR/>State and Local "governments" think they own your land and the "federal government" and many states believe your time at labor has a "ZERO COST BASIS" meaning that all that you earn is "gain or profit" and may be taxed.<BR/><BR/>I admire Mr. Bayliss and hope that I have the strength to stand and fight like a man when my time comes, and I fear this may be sooner, rather than later.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-958085473501930472008-06-27T20:11:00.000-06:002008-06-27T20:11:00.000-06:00I particularly like the Wisconsin State Journal's ...I particularly like the Wisconsin State Journal's two references to Mr. Bayliss' short wave radio & internet inspired "sovereign beliefs".<BR/><BR/>Truly - 'short wave radio & internet' sources of information can and will make a person nuts.<BR/><BR/>QUOTE:<BR/>"Bayliss said his growing disenchantment with county government — fueled in part by commentary he heard on short-wave radio broadcasts and reflected in slogans he frequently refers to<BR/><BR/>He did, however, make frequent references in the interview to oaths and constitutional issues and trespassing laws. All are familiar themes in what are commonly known as "sovereign" beliefs. The Internet and short-wave radio are popular sources for that information. There are recent court cases in Wisconsin involving members of groups who place harassing liens on public officials, or refuse to pay taxes based on obscure or false interpretations.<BR/><BR/>But Bayliss said — and McConoughy confirmed — he is not a member of any groups espousing generally anti-government views.<BR/><BR/>"He listens to their radio shows and gets a little agitated after doing that all winter," McConoughy said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-46892944754712857402008-06-27T20:04:00.000-06:002008-06-27T20:04:00.000-06:00When "Cops Gone Wild" run around with military gea...When "Cops Gone Wild" run around with military gear trying to put the people in their "place" it is only a matter of time they want to use their toys. It will only get worse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-3473787496619488612008-06-27T15:27:00.000-06:002008-06-27T15:27:00.000-06:00Hey, Gilligan -- I'm gratified to learn that you'v...Hey, Gilligan -- I'm gratified to learn that you've recovered from my fit of temper last year. :-) <BR/><BR/>Didn't I say you wouldn't like me when I'm angry?William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-79503579066114413122008-06-27T15:15:00.000-06:002008-06-27T15:15:00.000-06:00I need to warn you all. DON'T EVER call Will Grigg...I need to warn you all. DON'T EVER call Will Grigg a "trekkie dork" to his face, like I did last year. I mean it! Apparently, he wasn't in the greatest of moods when I needled him last year with that condescending remark. I found out that he's not only brutally strong, but he also knows some pretty fancy Greco-Roman wrestling moves. He rushed me, put me quickly to the ground and somehow managed to wrap my left leg behind my neck while simultaneously wedging my right arm in the space between my neck and leg. I couldn't pull it out. Needless to say, I was in immense pain. Then, Mr. Grigg (I always call him Mr. Grigg now.) took my crutches, along with the cast that had previously encased my right foot and threw them all into the Snake river, along with my angina heart medication. <BR/><BR/>A word to the wise: <BR/><BR/>Think before ye speaketh! Yea! Holdeth thy tongue and cleaveth it to thy roof of thy mouth in silence!<BR/><BR/>My doctor says I should be fine. I'm almost back to 100% health, but my left leg and right arm still have some numbness, and I still can't find my glass eye that was disgorged that fateful day. Anyway, I hope Mr. Grigg will forgive my past impertinence and let bygones be bygones. Shalom! (Please?!) <BR/><BR/> -R. "Gilligan" WiesingerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-41665016111931767242008-06-26T21:56:00.000-06:002008-06-26T21:56:00.000-06:00The message is clear - falling behind on exorbi...The message is clear - falling behind on exorbitant rent payments to the local public school system could easily trigger a military style assault. It takes a lot of money, after all, to keep the population servile and barely literate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-46450366214896387262008-06-26T17:44:00.000-06:002008-06-26T17:44:00.000-06:00Wilco (i think it was you) suggested: It seems to ...Wilco (i think it was you) suggested: It seems to me that the peaceful way to have handled this would have been to put a tax lein on his property.<BR/><BR/>From the town's perspective at the worst it would amount to giving him a reverse mortgage on his land, but it would be civilised.<BR/><BR/>All other issues aside, at least then it could be worked out in court or on grounds of the disputant's choosing. this is nothing more than thuggery under color of law.<BR/><BR/>The problem is, someone would still have to drive up and serve him papers. Otherwise it would be happening without him knowing it. And at that point, he would (and did) shoot at the summons servers. And if that summons server was your wife, I sure as hell bet you'd want someone to go in and get the guy. Well, maybe not, I've never met your wife (if you have one). But choosing to shoot at someone that shows up to serve papers is probably not the best idea if you don't want force met with force.<BR/><BR/>What IS the answer? I didn't say I had any, I just said I had questions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-67578570208557127442008-06-26T12:03:00.000-06:002008-06-26T12:03:00.000-06:00http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,371925,00.html...http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,371925,00.html<BR/><BR/>For some reason I figured maybe I should send you this article...actually for a couple of reasons. First, my continuing disenchantment with the death penalty. Despite the crying out from somewhere deep inside that death is too good for these people, there is also the question of why on earth we should let the government punish what God is already going to punish in a much more severe way. If we emptied our prisons of potheads, we'd have a place to keep these people off of the streets, we'd have a safe society and they'd have a lifetime to repent.<BR/><BR/>Second, note the quote from the Texan about children being a "resource." Something about that idea strikes me as inherently disgusting (not, admittedly, as disgusting as child rape). It is amazing the arrogance of a state official, to dare to call children "our...resource".Dauvit Balfourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12543093128734164639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-56592301803819834152008-06-26T10:46:00.000-06:002008-06-26T10:46:00.000-06:00It seems to me that the peaceful way to have handl...It seems to me that the peaceful way to have handled this would have been to put a tax lein on his property.<BR/><BR/>From the town's perspective at the worst it would amount to giving him a reverse mortgage on his land, but it would be civilised.<BR/><BR/>All other issues aside, at least then it could be worked out in court or on grounds of the disputant's choosing. this is nothing more than thuggery under color of law.willohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16585767449890506446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-18374972762490455462008-06-26T10:20:00.000-06:002008-06-26T10:20:00.000-06:00Anon @ 2:41 AM - Dude. They only do THAT when the...Anon @ 2:41 AM - Dude. They only do THAT when there are women and children present! (See "Waco")<BR/><BR/>Good article Mr. Grigg......I only wish the lamestream "media" would report these things instead of the latest on Britany, Jessica, etc (ad nauseum)<BR/><BR/>And the 'silent majority' snores along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-57800278927023789542008-06-26T08:28:00.000-06:002008-06-26T08:28:00.000-06:00Land tenure in the US is "fee simple" which means ...Land tenure in the US is "fee simple" which means (the short version) you never "own" the land; you simply hold title (possesion) of a "lease" from the government. You can sell, mortgage, inherit, will, give, rent this "property right" but you do not own the land.<BR/><BR/>True ownership is called Allodial title and it does not exist in the US. Allodial title is inalienable, in that it cannot be taken by any operation of law for any reason whatsoever. Allodial title is exempt from taxes, zoning, all forms of control and confiscation by any level of government.<BR/><BR/>You can see why governments will never allow it. Allodial title, like all freedom, is something that must be taken; it will never be given.Northwoodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00311686085920196197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-60896686952127169832008-06-26T06:39:00.000-06:002008-06-26T06:39:00.000-06:00There is an application for a property zoning chan...There is an application for a property zoning change locally for a "search and rescue training center", to include a shooting range, amnutition storage, mile-long airstrip, and parking for vehicles "...greater than 10,000 lbs each". This in the center of 12,000 acres of woodland less than 3 miles from a large rural school here in central Florida. My first thought was Blackwater, but SWAT training seems more likely. I'm scared, very scared. It's one mile from my house!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-70092761358004323382008-06-26T03:41:00.000-06:002008-06-26T03:41:00.000-06:00I'm surprised they didn't cal in an air-strike, or...I'm surprised they didn't cal in an air-strike, or artillery bombardment... <BR/><BR/>God bless that manAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-55137620209667045712008-06-25T23:19:00.000-06:002008-06-25T23:19:00.000-06:00Our country is gone.Our country is gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-24088936215190435462008-06-25T22:56:00.000-06:002008-06-25T22:56:00.000-06:00Zonga said: "What ya gonna do when they come for y...Zonga said: "What ya gonna do when they come for you? Put the gun to your head and pull the trigger?"<BR/><BR/>Nah, kill as many of the bastards as I can before they kill me. Double tap to the head and one to the groin will defeat most body armor. Made that choice long ago. If you are not ready to die for what you believe in, you believe in nothing.<BR/><BR/>I think Zonga is a provocateur . . . A few of his/her ilk have posted in the past, I think Leviathan is becoming irritable.<BR/><BR/>Sic Semper TyrannisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-27946248035154275342008-06-25T22:39:00.000-06:002008-06-25T22:39:00.000-06:00will,whoopee! i'm 2 for 2!!! i got mad skillz. "...will,<BR/><BR/>whoopee! i'm 2 for 2!!! i got mad skillz. <BR/><BR/>"Ooo is your dahdee, and vaht does ee doo!"<BR/><BR/>rick<BR/><BR/>oh well...i have to share this one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-2956019400431097712008-06-25T22:08:00.000-06:002008-06-25T22:08:00.000-06:00In the TOS episode "Mirror, Mirror" a transporter ...In the TOS episode "Mirror, Mirror" a transporter accident swaps Kirk with an alternate version of himself from a Universe where the Velvet Glove fascism of the Federation is morphed into an Iron Fist.<BR/><BR/>Spock is First Officer of the Enterprise in that place and the quote is his.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com