tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post7018606569147755956..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Watching The Detectives ... Can Land You In JailWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-15777247956428804052010-04-23T10:06:30.696-06:002010-04-23T10:06:30.696-06:00Great post. The problem people often overlook tho...Great post. The problem people often overlook though is that police have the power (power, not authority) to physically prevent you from recording. When I got arrested last year due to standing up for my rights, I attempted to take out my phone to record the interaction, but they simply took the phone from me. And then once again we're in a position of my word against theirs. If you have a legislative fix to THAT problem, I'd be all ears...Vanessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06092513705740053677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-69126043955252961012009-03-08T12:12:00.000-06:002009-03-08T12:12:00.000-06:00wow some of this stuff is bad but obviously is twi...wow some of this stuff is bad but obviously is twisted for the public to believe. Its really obvious especially with the taser case that something else was wrong. They did not mention that the autopsy report showed that the guy was on crystal meth which makes you not feel pain. Its a drug. So some of this stuff is really bad and hard to believe but just remember dont believe everything you read because all the facts are not in this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-64929410860248472362007-06-04T18:03:00.000-06:002007-06-04T18:03:00.000-06:00will,i'm wondering if with all of this police abus...will,<BR/><BR/>i'm wondering if with all of this police abuse, we really even need them any more? it baffles me, whenever i see a gun mag, to see police in armored vehicles and....silencers? what the heck? why do police need silencers for? they ain't military...are they? maybe they're not military...yet. i think a lot of these officers need to go back to revolvers. you had few bullets and it kinda forced you to de-escalate a situation. i think maybe (as a joke) each freedom minded american ought to build a huge trap door pit on his doorstep so when bad cops show up, you press a button and presto! into the pungee stick pit! <BR/><BR/>i need to stop. it's just that these abuses piss me off. it's amazing the low caliber of people who are becoming policemen. man oh man.<BR/><BR/>sorry to have not been posting. wasn't sure what the problem was for a while.frenchyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00355101471427377248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-28820050235636424662007-06-04T14:32:00.000-06:002007-06-04T14:32:00.000-06:00I recall that there is a Federal law stating that ...<I>I recall that there is a Federal law stating that if you record another person on your own phone, you have to tell them that you are recording the conversation. It's legal as long as you tell them.</I><BR/><BR/>Right Henry, that's the problem. As far as the legalese goes, I think it's a matter of state law (imagine that!) and actually varies state by state.<BR/><BR/>Still, though, in my mind, you shouldn't have to "tell them" because that would defeat the whole purpose of installing the gear to start with. That's the whole idea of a "candid camera" or a "bug" on YOUR phone.<BR/><BR/>Everybody will be on their BEST and BRIGHTEST behavior if they invade your domain when they know beforehand that your abode is rigg'd for video and sound.<BR/><BR/>Nevertheless, your point is significant...the LAW is the LAW...sigh. Government at all levels, naturally, is largely exempt from that annoyance as there is no "Miranda" warning applicable to the gubmint wiretapping anyone.<BR/><BR/>Can you imagine this: "You have the right to remain silent. Anything and everything you say and do will be videotaped and used against you in a court of law."<BR/><BR/>Yep, I fantasize too much ;).dixiedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-48910836275961743792007-06-04T13:31:00.000-06:002007-06-04T13:31:00.000-06:00Dixiedog,I recall that there is a Federal law stat...Dixiedog,<BR/><BR/>I recall that there is a Federal law stating that if you record another person on your own phone, you have to tell them that you are recording the conversation. It's legal as long as you tell them.<BR/><BR/>I do not understand why people <B>ever</B> permit cops into their house! If a cop wants to ask you questions, <B>never</B> allow them into your house. It simply gives them information that they really do not ever need.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-44197719026380238752007-06-03T16:45:00.000-06:002007-06-03T16:45:00.000-06:00DD - Its no less absurd than using RICO laws to ha...DD - Its no less absurd than using RICO laws to hammer on people who have done nothing mob related. But, then again, the biggest "mafia" around is the Fed. Hmmmmm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-28515284567501953512007-06-03T13:47:00.000-06:002007-06-03T13:47:00.000-06:00Indeed DrFix. This term wiretapping has seemingly ...Indeed DrFix. This term <I>wiretapping</I> has seemingly become an all-encompassing term nowadays to ANY concealed listening/recording device even within the confines of your own property or business.<BR/><BR/>The way I see it, how could one call it "wiretapping" in the illegal sense when a person installs a CCTV system on their OWN premises or a recording device on their OWN phone?<BR/><BR/>It simply records the actions of another party, who invaded the premises to begin with. If one is averse to being taped and/or recorded in this situation, simply do not <I>invade or trespass upon another's domain</I>, either by phone or in person, if you don't want your yacking voice on record and/or your mug on "candid camera" respectively.<BR/><BR/>It seems like common sense to me, but that's a rare commodity these days.dixiedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51776642663296892552007-06-03T10:45:00.000-06:002007-06-03T10:45:00.000-06:00Oh, and another thing that I believe is patently "...Oh, and another thing that I believe is patently "obvious" to the reality-based community, you can't "wiretap" anything that isn't clearly a utility such as the phone. So that limp wristed argument is a missing fig leaf in their non existant defense. Because if it were true then everytime you recorded your kids at the park or Disneyland or whatever, you'd technically be wiretapping and thus by extension guilty. For who knows... you might even catch sight of a cop, undercover even.... OOooooooohhh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-10033608061151268272007-06-03T10:38:00.000-06:002007-06-03T10:38:00.000-06:00Last video was a sad hoot! Isn't it ironic that w...Last video was a sad hoot! Isn't it ironic that while governmental storm troopers use video cameras as "evidence", while those being taped don't know its occuring and ostensibly didn't sign off on permitting them to do so, if you choose to do likewise that you're "wiretapping"?.... Seems the sauce doesn't suit the gander. Another lesson learned in all these articles recently is that its better to live in small communities or far away from the urban madness if at all possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-27002957756374533222007-06-02T09:47:00.000-06:002007-06-02T09:47:00.000-06:00Great video at the end.Absolutely hilarious.Howeve...Great video at the end.Absolutely hilarious.<BR/>However, NH's bellicose men in blue are not. Unfortunately I have to live under them. I have found, however, that the attitude of the police varies from to town. I live in a very rural town, within the state. My police department is pretty reasonable and pretty much leaves us alone. If they notice ( by recognizing your vehicle as it passes them ) that you are a resident of the town, they even tend to ignore minor speed limit violations. Its refreshing and makes for a pleasant small town experience. However, 15 miles to the north is a fairly large ( for NH standards) urban area. The police within that town tend to be nasty and edgy. The chief of that community is also rabidly anti- gun. The chief within my hometown, lives within the community and is older than most within the profession. I believe this plays a big part in the overall attitude of the department and its treatment of the citizens - within the community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-29821487233822847182007-06-02T00:41:00.000-06:002007-06-02T00:41:00.000-06:00I bring a camera to the gun range so I can take pi...I bring a camera to the gun range so I can take pictures of the occasional ATF agent that comes by taking pictures of the cars in the parking lot and people at the line.<BR/><BR/>This has happened to me a couple of times. Once in Appleton at the Twin City Rod and Gun Club. The agent wouldn't identify himself, jumped in his vehicle, and drove away when I confronted him about what he was doing snooping outside the gate (of a private club, I might add).JTLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03822812154321082569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-6218998513736474092007-06-01T23:05:00.000-06:002007-06-01T23:05:00.000-06:00Good advice: Most cellphones made today and for th...Good advice: Most cellphones made today and for the last few years have recording features. 9 out of 10 people who have phones that record don't know it though. Consult the owners manual. That way you always have a recorder with you.zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05334525584242029389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-52737695767472260402007-06-01T22:14:00.000-06:002007-06-01T22:14:00.000-06:00Land of corruption and thuggery!Land of corruption and thuggery!Proggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13975363611802862893noreply@blogger.com