tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post6463880802440444272..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: "Sedition" Purges -- Past, Present, and FutureWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-7512375505582567502010-04-13T11:23:48.903-06:002010-04-13T11:23:48.903-06:00Grigg Merely Assails Externals Without Addressing ...Grigg Merely Assails Externals Without Addressing Root Cause<br />(Apollonian, 13 Apr 10)<br /><br />"Lemuel": note I have voluminous "leg" to standing upon, my work going back long and far--and consistently--ck my archive at NewNation.org, under "commentary."<br /><br />I'm Christian (hence anti-semitic), going for saint-hood, specifically as crusader against Pelagian heresy ("good-evil" delusion/fallacy, founded upon HUBRIS of perfectly "free" human will).<br /><br />Note Pelagianism is VERRRRRRRY interesting kind of heresy which most horrifically be-devils present mankind, surely foremost element of present ZOG-Mammon empire-of-lies.<br /><br />Pelagianism first cropped-up to official notice of St. Augustine, as u may know--it re-arose in time of St. Martin Luther who then denounced Erasmus and Roman "Vatican" who were pushing "good works," making money off the poor volk.<br /><br />And nowadays, no less than (at least) the third serious wave of Pelagianism CONTINUES to rage, this in form of (especially) Immanuel Kant's (also Eng. utilitarians') rationalistic-styled Pharisaism by which he pretends to over-rule TRUTH and reality by means of this moralism.<br /><br />For never doubt all present statists, as fm Marx and Hegel, essentially found their justifications upon this latest Kantian-styled and -inspired Pelagianism--ANYTHING is justified if it's founded in "good."<br /><br />Presently, 80% of mankind is scheduled for extermination for sake of "environment," according to Alex Jones (InfoWars.com), who has numerous documents fm CFR-Bilderberg conspirators--which Grigg knows a bit about too, I suspect.<br /><br />Thus by means of this Pelagianism, called "Pharisaism" do Jews pretend to over-rule and supercede TRUTH and God, whom they insist is their slave, this false god of theirs not capable of resisting his obsessive "love" of narcissist, psychopathic Jews. See RevisionistHistory.org and TruthTellers.org for best Talmudic expo.<br /><br />CONCLUSION: Thus I maintain my criticism of Grigg is eminently justified as he merely opposes deification of the state and particular rulers--WITHOUT addressing Pelagianism which under-lies, rationalizing that deification, collectivism, and tyranny which he otherwise denounces. Grigg thus merely assails the outer effects without dealing w. the basic, root CAUSE, that hubristic, putrid moralism-Pharisaism, founded upon subjectivism and, for thematic example, fallacy of perfectly "free" will. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonianapollonianhttp://www.GentileAlliance.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-19078411574959307862010-04-13T11:00:47.384-06:002010-04-13T11:00:47.384-06:00The mind set and policies you have just exposed re...The mind set and policies you have just exposed remind me of the the former and current leadership of the once honorable John Birch Society. I along with a few other ordinary but principled employees were branded as seditionists for faithfully and honorably carrying out the principles upon which the organization was originally established. The petty small minded tyrrants exacted strong penalites upon the men and their families who stood upon biblical truth. Of course William Norman Grigg became a sort of Robert the Bruce in the Americanist liberty movement. I would say William Wallace but since I co-opted the Brave Heart theme he gets relegated to the great Bruce. Is he not just as worthy of our logistical and financial support as Washingtons Brave bootless troops at Vally Forge? Lets together make an online donation today so that this unique warrior who wields the pen more powerfully than most use the sword.<br />Join me as I pull out my credit card this morning and donate $100throught the pay pal at the bottom of the blog.If all of us contribute what we can regularly he can feed his family and stay on the front lines of the battle. I know some of you have been there for our warrior and I personally appreciate your love of liberty and willingness to support this brave man.Bravehearthttp://kevin.shannon1@verizon.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51015392521000418842010-04-12T21:42:46.014-06:002010-04-12T21:42:46.014-06:00WNG has written a beauty.
The Sedition Trial of 19...WNG has written a beauty.<br />The Sedition Trial of 1944,I thought to myself, who is telling people today about this? Nobody.<br />I was reminded of what Tolkien wrote,<br /><br /><i>Much that once was is lost. For none now live who remember it.</i><br /><br />Fellow patriots the WITHHOLDING of information is the most serious and frightening aspect of the Inner Party that controls the SideShow.<br /><br />If Americans do not KNOW their past, their government's abuses, EXCEPT when it suited the Marxists, then they will go along with ALL that is planned.<br /><br />Check into Rahm Israel Emanuel, read up on what happened to the Czar and his family, to <b>TWENTY MILLION</b> Russian Christians at the hands of the Bolshevik butchers. <br /><br />In 'Embracing the State' the author talks about the executioners that the Russian Christians faced.<br />WNG knows the book and will understand to what I refer.<br /><br />“Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?”<br />–- Galatians 4:16<br /><br />1 Thessalonians 2:14-16Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-17112224614739884422010-04-12T18:02:42.436-06:002010-04-12T18:02:42.436-06:00Apollonian,
Welcome back.
You are unjustified in ...Apollonian,<br />Welcome back.<br /><br />You are unjustified in your allegation that "so now Grigg objects to deification of state and leaders of state, fine and dandy--and quite understandable, in line of previous legion of heroic anti-statists. So Grigg's just doing some "Me-tooing" here, no?"<br /><br />I have been following this blog for some 3-4 years now, long before you appeared on it, and Mr. Grigg has been a consistent and courageous anti-statist.<br /><br />In fact, he has told us on this blog (and I see no reason for him to lie,) that he was fired from his career job before he even started the blog, because of refusing to re-ingest and re-gurgitate the governbment's vomit of lies.<br /><br />Not many of us can claim to have sacrificed our careers on the altar of the public good. Can you? If there were more courageous humanitarians like Mr. Grigg, (whom you insist on belittlitling as "Grigg") the air in this country would be a lot fresher and easier to breathe.<br /><br />I do not know what your motives are - at least I commend you for not using foul language - but you should pick another target. (Me, for instance, as you have done before.) Mr. Grigg is not really someone you have differences of opinion with. <br /><br />Yours respectfully,<br />Lemuel Gulliver.Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-88682020748915105862010-04-12T12:09:02.660-06:002010-04-12T12:09:02.660-06:00Grigg Merely Diverts From Issue Of Deification Of ...Grigg Merely Diverts From Issue Of Deification Of Moralism-Pharisaism<br />(Apollonian, 12 Apr 10)<br /><br />Okay, so now Grigg objects to deification of state and leaders of state, fine and dandy--and quite understandable, in line of previous legion of heroic anti-statists. So Grigg's just doing some "Me-tooing" here, no?--aside fm the history lesson fm recent past.<br /><br />But what I object to regarding Grigg is he doesn't seem to acknowledge the connection w. MORALISM-Pharisaism and deification thereof. For that's how fascism works: violation of law and natural rights is ALWAYS justified by such "moralism."<br /><br />So state (and fascist leaders thereof) is deified as the moralism it pretends to uphold is deified, right? And all the statists--they're "deified" as they're such up-standing moralists, aren't they?<br /><br />In fact, that's very method of politicians and communists: "I'm for these people (whoever)," therefore everything I do is justified, including getting their votes.<br /><br />For note that was "magnificent" innovation of Immanuel Kant: the idea that moralism (what's "good") now tweaks and determines reality (hence Christian TRUTH) itself. What followed in hist. of philosophy was Hegelian absolute state, Bismarckian socialism, then Marx, and now here we are.<br /><br />For that's what's going on--deification of moralism, hence anti-racism (which Grigg likes and justifies), and lately deification of "environmentalism," for sake of which we need de-population, this last being somewhat new twist to things.<br /><br />Indeed, now we have anti-"hate" which itself is deification. And it's this issue of moralism and pretended "good-evil" Pelagian heresy which Grigg continues to evade. Thus Grigg's problem then is deification of moralism vs. ABSOLUTE truth.<br /><br />CONCLUSION: So if Grigg wants to uphold Christianity and truth, then doesn't he require denouncing of moralism and subjectivism? That's how Fed COUNTERFEITING is up-held--because gee whiz, but look at all the "good" we can accomplish therewith. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonianapollonianhttp://www.GentileAlliance.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-78145528915369686382010-04-12T12:09:02.661-06:002010-04-12T12:09:02.661-06:00Grigg Merely Diverts From Issue Of Deification Of ...Grigg Merely Diverts From Issue Of Deification Of Moralism-Pharisaism<br />(Apollonian, 12 Apr 10)<br /><br />Okay, so now Grigg objects to deification of state and leaders of state, fine and dandy--and quite understandable, in line of previous legion of heroic anti-statists. So Grigg's just doing some "Me-tooing" here, no?--aside fm the history lesson fm recent past.<br /><br />But what I object to regarding Grigg is he doesn't seem to acknowledge the connection w. MORALISM-Pharisaism and deification thereof. For that's how fascism works: violation of law and natural rights is ALWAYS justified by such "moralism."<br /><br />So state (and fascist leaders thereof) is deified as the moralism it pretends to uphold is deified, right? And all the statists--they're "deified" as they're such up-standing moralists, aren't they?<br /><br />In fact, that's very method of politicians and communists: "I'm for these people (whoever)," therefore everything I do is justified, including getting their votes.<br /><br />For note that was "magnificent" innovation of Immanuel Kant: the idea that moralism (what's "good") now tweaks and determines reality (hence Christian TRUTH) itself. What followed in hist. of philosophy was Hegelian absolute state, Bismarckian socialism, then Marx, and now here we are.<br /><br />For that's what's going on--deification of moralism, hence anti-racism (which Grigg likes and justifies), and lately deification of "environmentalism," for sake of which we need de-population, this last being somewhat new twist to things.<br /><br />Indeed, now we have anti-"hate" which itself is deification. And it's this issue of moralism and pretended "good-evil" Pelagian heresy which Grigg continues to evade. Thus Grigg's problem then is deification of moralism vs. ABSOLUTE truth.<br /><br />CONCLUSION: So if Grigg wants to uphold Christianity and truth, then doesn't he require denouncing of moralism and subjectivism? That's how Fed COUNTERFEITING is up-held--because gee whiz, but look at all the "good" we can accomplish therewith. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonianapollonianhttp://www.GentileAlliance.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-59609408029310197872010-04-11T23:10:46.303-06:002010-04-11T23:10:46.303-06:00Once again, Will, you have hit the Bulls-Eye!
I h...Once again, Will, you have hit the Bulls-Eye!<br /><br />I have re-interated time and again that the time has come for the break-up of this country.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16565620274260288512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-28123547288476915892010-04-11T18:50:18.093-06:002010-04-11T18:50:18.093-06:00well,
God was clear when He said, "whatsoeve...well,<br /><br />God was clear when He said, "whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."<br /><br />folks in govt can claim an authority they do not have, and even carry it out, but spiritually speaking, they open themselves to the same kind of treatment...and hostile act(s) for someone to carry out against them.<br /><br />it's so sad that in their zeal, they forget this principle. probably because they are too busy pounding their chest saying, "who see-eth me!"<br /><br />rickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-59127121828987822982010-04-11T13:38:02.157-06:002010-04-11T13:38:02.157-06:00This discussion may be more timely than you imagin...This discussion may be more timely than you imagined.<br /><br /><br />http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/001/Media/ARM10090.pdf<br /><br />http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s3081/show<br /><br />http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h4892/showAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-24015335551781393102010-04-11T03:11:08.015-06:002010-04-11T03:11:08.015-06:00Another day, another Pulitzer-worthy and criminall...Another day, another Pulitzer-worthy and criminally underappreciated essay from Mr. Grigg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-86219946628992561382010-04-10T19:31:50.580-06:002010-04-10T19:31:50.580-06:00Mr. Grigg,
Is it possible that Brandenburg v Ohio...Mr. Grigg,<br /><br />Is it possible that Brandenburg v Ohio might be pertinent to the Hutaree defense?<br /><br />I ran across mention of the Brandenburg case in Judge Napolitano's new book - Lies The Government Told You and was immediately reminded of some parallels to the Hutaree matter.<br /><br />[W-III]W W Woodwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13326046112820327760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-62536688782756545012010-04-10T13:56:36.154-06:002010-04-10T13:56:36.154-06:00Two comments:
First, Liberal Fascism by Jonah Gold...Two comments:<br />First, <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=-y0A3OJaQEgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=liberal+fascism&cd=1#v=onepage&q&f=false" rel="nofollow">Liberal Fascism</a> by Jonah Goldberg does a great job of documenting hte evidence of Wilson and FDR's fascism.<br /><br /><br />Second, Glenn Greenwald made an excellent observation regarding Obama bestowing upon himself the <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/07/assassinations" rel="nofollow">power to assassinate</a> upon his decree.<br /><br />"When Obama was seeking the Democratic nomination, the Constitutional Law Scholar answered a questionnaire about executive power distributed by The Boston Globe's Charlie Savage, and this was one of his answers:<br /><br />5. Does the Constitution permit a president to detain US citizens without charges as unlawful enemy combatants? <br /><br />[Obama]: No. I reject the Bush Administration's claim that the President has plenary authority under the Constitution to detain U.S. citizens without charges as unlawful enemy combatants.<br /><br />So back then, Obama said the President lacks the power merely to detain U.S. citizens without charges. Now, as President, he claims the power to assassinate them without charges. Could even his hardest-core loyalists try to reconcile that with a straight face?"Daniel Hewittnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-23032303753521185542010-04-10T01:09:14.467-06:002010-04-10T01:09:14.467-06:00It is a sad sad fact, and one most Americans are c...It is a sad sad fact, and one most Americans are completely oblivious to, that our government brooks no question of its unbridled self-appointed powers. The old joke was that if you feel you're free then stop paying your taxes and see just how FREE you really are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-54249133032230366752010-04-09T19:23:31.544-06:002010-04-09T19:23:31.544-06:00Will, you made some good points in your talk tonig...Will, you made some good points in your talk tonight, as always. I was less distracted and able to hold a few more nuggets of truth in my mouth and swirl them around like wine. How wise our forefathers were. And you quoted Solzenhitzen(sp?) - thats who got me on this track of thought to begin with in 1976. Wonderful show.Sibkisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03773228589005471731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-42530787266916922362010-04-09T18:28:58.734-06:002010-04-09T18:28:58.734-06:00A few quotes are in order to put things into persp...A few quotes are in order to put things into perspective:<br /><br />"And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants." — Thomas Jefferson <br /><br />"You must understand, therefore, that there are two ways of fighting: by law or by force. The first way is natural to men, and the second to beasts. But as the first way often proves inadequate one must have recourse to the second." — Niccolo Machiavelli<br /><br />“All governments are the enemies of the people. The Founding Fathers knew this and had no illusions as to the eventual direction our government would take. This is the very purpose of the right to keep and bear arms. This right, granted by the hand of God and explicitly singled out for protection in the highest law of our nation, was intended to give the people the ultimate recourse of action in the face of a government that would seek to oppress them.” - Jon S. Koopman <br /><br /><br />The point of these quotes, two from brilliant men and one from an old curmudgeon, is that liberty is only enjoyed by those who are willing to fight for it. What freedoms we still have are due to men who engaged in treason against a repressive government. History repeats itself and eventually liberty will need to be claimed once again through actions seen as sedotious by the regime looking at the pointy end of the bayonet. I wish this were not so but any student of history is foolish to assume otherwise.<br /><br />jkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51043397932344432592010-04-09T17:36:04.434-06:002010-04-09T17:36:04.434-06:00"everything for the state; nothing outside th...<i>"everything for the state; nothing outside the state; nothing against the state."</i> benito mussolini.<br /><br /><i>"the state embraces everything, and nothing has value outside the state. the state creates right."</i> franklin delano roosevelt.<br /><br /><i>"the state dominates the nation because it alone represents it."</i> adolf hitler.<br /><br /><i>"there is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."</i> proverbs 14:12.jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02615104086703717817noreply@blogger.com