tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post5976551431547077293..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: The Child Snatchers Win (Updated)William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-44496579958340172352011-10-22T18:17:43.549-06:002011-10-22T18:17:43.549-06:00I'm the girl that is being talked about in the...I'm the girl that is being talked about in the Fredrick shaves case. It's hard to know the memories of my past will still on... It seems like they will never go away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-73195194711977441362010-04-02T12:32:57.594-06:002010-04-02T12:32:57.594-06:00These websites that tout the crimes of the CPS are...These websites that tout the crimes of the CPS are a dime a dozen. How about instead of spreading the word of their crimes, you actually start DOING something about it, and spreading the word on how we can bring these bastards down. I'm sick of listening, I'm ready to fight for our citizen's rights! I've experienced this kind of corruption before, my children were unjustly taken for two YEARS, and neither me or my spouse were charged with anything. We were subjected to the unconstitutional "Family Court", and eventually our children were returned to us, after considerable legal pressure. We went broke fighting the system, I *REFUSE* to stand by and watch others suffer the same fate as me. START DOING SOMETHING.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-12651358826088052702009-03-19T18:50:00.000-06:002009-03-19T18:50:00.000-06:00Hello. Would you mind sharing the original site wh...Hello. Would you mind sharing the original site where you got the picture of the gun man and the little boy peeing? I would like to know.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16953229547496452507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-68962183082052104732008-06-06T07:40:00.000-06:002008-06-06T07:40:00.000-06:00Thank you for such a well spoken post. We were sim...Thank you for such a well spoken post. We were similarly harassed in Alabama. They stole my children returned all but my eldest after 24 hours. Tried to have me committed so I could not talk to the judge to retrieve the children in the 24 hour first court appearance. They bribed the eldest, fabricated information, and told us unless complete compliance was received on our part we would never see her again.<BR/> They demanded my attendance in therapy the day I returned from the hospital from a difficult, dangerous birth in an office over 100+ miles away when my son was in the nicu. This was considered non-compliance when I refused but agreed to phone conference or postpone. That is when they decided they would launch an all out assault to destroy our family and refused my daughter's contact with us.They broke court visitation orders with no notice and to this day we still believe she was molested when in their care. They made up false allegations because this was in a state other than our residence, and they wanted to try to have the other state try to take our children. When the court case was finished the foster mother stole almost $1000 worth of belongings we gave my daughter while in their care and when we requested the return of these items they once again sent the other states cps system on us for false allegations and to "check on us". <BR/><BR/>They returned to me a child with no real understanding of authority who feels we should cater to her every whim. The pictures of her pre-cps and post cps speak volumes. The reason from the court officials for the hounding....because we were different. The psychiatrists are just a paid extension of the cps system.<BR/> There is so much corruption all for federal kickbacks and a power trip.Many of the foster familys seem to be parents who cannot have children on their own and are fed lies about the parents to encourage them to further fracture the family unit. This case will not end until they feel they have proven an abuser exists even if they falsify it.<BR/> Three people lost their jobs after our case ended and we momentarily opened the eyes of the local judge but my daughter's life is forever damaged and my family bears the scars of a system that just put a new set of offenders in. We live in fear of reprisals after just asking for the return of my daughters belongings brought a whole new wave of grief (we never were returned the items and chose not to purssue it out of fear...). These people will not get any rest if our case proves anything because they will forever fear being judged because they are different...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-45253215287510061712008-06-06T05:35:00.000-06:002008-06-06T05:35:00.000-06:00ELDORADO RAIDPerry defends raid on polygamist sect...ELDORADO RAID<BR/><BR/>Perry defends raid on polygamist sect<BR/>Elder calls Perry's remarks shocking.<BR/>ASSOCIATED PRESS<BR/><BR/>Friday, June 06, 2008 <BR/><BR/>http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/06/06/0606flds.html<BR/><BR/>Rick Mr. Sleaze Perry ruins the life and reputation of his family, wife, children, by his escapade in the Gov's mansion bed with Mr. Secretary of Stante, and he has the audacity to moralize for Texans and the safety of children.<BR/><BR/>He apparently has been in Europe coducting business for the state of Texas. Shows how in the clutches of the internationalist business interests he has placed Texas business.<BR/><BR/>Proportionately, Rick Perry has done just as reeked just as much harm and devastation to the once great state of Texas and its people as The Smirk as to our national republic.<BR/><BR/>Rick Perry, according to Mr. Grigg, worked hard to stop the Comptroller's investigation and expose of the Texas foster care and CPS system. I know the investigation was stopped but I could not get the current Comptroller office of answer any questions regarding Perry's actions in that regard. All I know is that this particular kind of investigation function was transferred to anoher state agency and the report was stopped and silenced and the Texas CPS and foster care system has continued to attack and ruin families and trample on the rights of children and parents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-8600287686558163192008-06-05T23:42:00.000-06:002008-06-05T23:42:00.000-06:00Don't know if this comment section is still open b...Don't know if this comment section is still open but if so . . .check these out. Unbelievable.<BR/><BR/>"Texas Gov. Rick Perry defends state's seizure of polygamist sect's kids"<BR/>http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/060608dntexpolygamistsperry.2911ea7.html<BR/><BR/>and<BR/><BR/>"Texas governor suggests sect may want to move on"<BR/>3 hours ago<BR/>http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iIdMpRHjN4hpNKBhfYyAsR4DDo4QD91497TG0Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-17464970912240720072008-06-05T10:01:00.000-06:002008-06-05T10:01:00.000-06:00This is an article worth reading. "Important Win F...This is an article worth reading.<BR/> <BR/>"Important Win For Fathers,Children in Nebraska Supreme Court"<BR/>http://www.bloggernews.net/116039<BR/><BR/>It addresses some important issues contained in the "pro-state custody" mindset.<BR/><BR/>examples of mindset:<BR/>Those who state that all this fuss over the "rights" of "biological parents" is silly.<BR/>That it's best to have the welfare of children in this country monitored and mandated by an "impartial" government.<BR/>etc., etc., ad nauseum . . .<BR/><BR/>The state is NOT - NOW - nor will it EVER BE - a parent.<BR/><BR/>Families are "our country".<BR/><BR/>If one reads the writings of our founding fathers, it is readily apparent that - the rights of individual citizens and families - to be "safe" from "intrusion of government" within their homes - was a priority.<BR/><BR/>If the sanctity and rights of the family (as individually expressed) are not upheld - then any claim of "freedom" - will be only empty rhetoric and illusion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-30749739884899117822008-06-04T10:30:00.000-06:002008-06-04T10:30:00.000-06:00""Child Protective Services has one purpose in thi...""Child Protective Services has one purpose in this case - to protect the children. Our goal is to reunite families whenever we can do so and make sure the children will be safe."<BR/><BR/>That is a patently false statement. We the people will never know the true motivations that prompted this debacle. It most likely had something to do with orders from corrupt Rick Perry and his machinations with our secret government thugs. Wonder if old Rick will again be attending the Bilderberg meeting that is starting today in McClean Virginia.<BR/><BR/>There are numberous orders and racketeering type actions and motivations that impact on CPS. It is sad but the historical record is the children of Texas do not stand a chance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-8525346204808313302008-06-04T08:33:00.000-06:002008-06-04T08:33:00.000-06:00Like Mike Nifong and Hillary Clinton, Judge Walthe...Like Mike Nifong and Hillary Clinton, Judge Walther just doesn't know when to quit.<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't it be great if she were held in contempt of the Texas Supreme Court, and jailed in gen pop?<BR/><BR/>Bend over, wench!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-86777187862108117732008-06-03T20:10:00.000-06:002008-06-03T20:10:00.000-06:00To better understand the real intentions of the au...To better understand the real intentions of the authorities, look into phrases like. <BR/>[ “ FLDS worry grand jury could come after them” TSLT ]<BR/> "It's early in the game," <BR/> “we are disappointed”<BR/> “we will see the tide turn once again”<BR/> “the biggest custody battle in US history”<BR/> <BR/> this is not from the Dallas cowboys, it is from the hypocrites who pretend to act in the best interest of the children. <BR/>The real intentions and goals are victories of the government against the people, wins that solidify government power, and demoralize the subjects. <BR/> And notice how easily the authorities identify with a documented crack whore Flora.<BR/> Because the country is like the way the FLDS church would be with Flora as the prophet.<BR/> <BR/> It is scary.<BR/> But we live in a rogue state. Criminals are in control of the government. Historically, when criminals become the government, the people get fancy lectures by the ones that destroy them. It is the obvious sign that their real plans have to be concealed.<BR/> The FLDS handling is only one sample, the perpetual war that we are in is another. <BR/> Unfortunately, there is no hope, because only total destruction reawakens people’s desire for peace and justice.Christ-oVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12641456714680810488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-90051164644760774462008-06-03T11:20:00.000-06:002008-06-03T11:20:00.000-06:00Not advocating harm to this judge, but I would bet...Not advocating harm to this judge, but I would bet if she didn't have tax payer funded thugs as bodyguards, she wouldn't be such an arrogant servant. If it were up to me, I would remove all tax funded bodyguards from all government employees, from G.W. Bush down. If they think they need protection,let them pay for it from their own pockets or do like the rest of us and call 911.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-64564752203644231582008-06-03T10:01:00.000-06:002008-06-03T10:01:00.000-06:00How very Nifongian of Judge Walters. May her fate ...How very Nifongian of Judge Walters. May her fate in the end be the same.Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04780425923108876647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-84203623067119238802008-06-03T08:22:00.000-06:002008-06-03T08:22:00.000-06:00A small bit of truth from the media confusion rega...A small bit of truth from the media confusion regarding the FLDS:<BR/><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/6r8zlk" REL="nofollow">Rep. Harvey Hilderbran, R-Kerrville[, TX], ... began looking for ways to rein in his FLDS neighbors.</A><BR/><BR/>Representative Hilderbran from Kerrville is a tyrant, a busybody, a crook, and the moral equivalent of a Mafia thug.<BR/><BR/>The FLDS are NOT Hilderbran's neighbors. <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/69cgm3" REL="nofollow">According to Google maps,</A> Kerrville is nearly two hours from Eldorado. Why should a man in Kerrville have the authority to tell people in Eldorado how to live? This is a moral question we really should answer, with monstrous implications for the whole foundation of most people's thinking.<BR/><BR/>There's a line drawn across the middle of the Rio Grande river. We call it the border between Texas and Mexico. People living north of the line don't have the authority to tell people living south of the line how to live, and people living south of the line don't have the authority to tell people living north of the line how to live. If people cross the line with guns and try to force their will on others, we recognize they are criminals. The only way for people on opposite sides of the line to influence each other is by voluntary agreement. This can happen on a massive scale, in the form of treaties, and it can happen on an individual scale, in the form of small purchases, and it can happen on every scale in between.<BR/><BR/>Representative Hilderbran has no more authority to force his approval or disapproval of marriages on the FLDS than I do to go next door and tell my neighbor who his daughter can or can't marry. Marriages at age 14 and up with parental consent were deemed perfectly moral and acceptable by the gang of thugs in Austin calling itself the State of Texas prior to October 2005. They did not suddenly become immoral. Apparently the Austin Gang thinks these marriages were just fine as long as nice Baptist and Methodist people were letting their children get married at 15; it's only a problem when scroungy FLDS people move in and do it. Baptists and Methodists don't constitute near as much of a threat to the established order as do the radical FLDS.<BR/><BR/>There is no moral reason why there should be a line across the Rio Grande between Texas and Mexico, but no line drawn between Eldorado and Kerrville. People have the right to self-determination. If Texas and Mexico each have the right to self-determination and it must be mutually respected, then so does each component territory within the U.S. and within Mexico, so does each county within each U.S. State, so does each city, in fact, so does each household. Why should there be a line between Texas and Mexico? Surely it's not because the people to the south have dark skin and speak a different language, is it? Is that why it's okay to draw a line to keep those people out, but not okay for FLDS near Eldorado to draw a line to keep whites out? I don't think that's the motivation ... but what other consistent response can be offered?<BR/><BR/>We've invented the fiction that voting equals self-determination. Here the truth is exposed: voting in this case <I>eliminates</I> self-determination by giving a fake legitimacy to the crime of a man from Kerrville oppressing the FLDS. Self-determination is <I>robbed</I> from the FLDS. Their fate will now be determined by "neighborly" thugs like Hilderbran, offering us all "protection" if we will pay and acknowledge his authority, as he makes us an offer we literally <I>can't</I> refuse.<BR/><BR/>The cult here is not the FLDS. It's the religious belief that the gang in Austin is legitimate in exercising its authority and is beneficial as it does so. And that belief permeates almost all of society, within and without Texas. This is why Austin is so scared of groups like the FLDS: they offer something else to believe in and venerate, an alternative culture to the one mandated by our gang. They are competition, and the gang is trying to wipe them out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-37744768077816426872008-06-03T07:39:00.000-06:002008-06-03T07:39:00.000-06:00I have greatly appreciated your updates as this ca...I have greatly appreciated your updates as this case unfolds -- thanks for the efforts!Jemison Thorsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063466545537540883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-73715743013945911982008-06-03T07:00:00.000-06:002008-06-03T07:00:00.000-06:00As always, great information and coverage of this ...As always, great information and coverage of this horror.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Conan the CimmerianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-24068760190056607762008-06-03T05:23:00.000-06:002008-06-03T05:23:00.000-06:00Thank you, Mr. Grigg, for this latest update. Tex...Thank you, Mr. Grigg, for this latest update. <BR/><BR/>Texas Youth Commission scandal about a year ago was all swept under the rug. Administrators and employees of this prison system for juveniles were simply operating a perderast palace. They even had rape sessions of the chidlren prisoners in the middle of the night and the parking lot was full of cars from men some would call "Texas' finest" who were professionals and high level government and business people.<BR/><BR/>Two privately owned jails in Travis County were closed due to rape of the inamtes by the guards.<BR/><BR/>All of this is hushed. Administrators of these agencies and facilities are corrupt and evil and even the Texas Rangers are told to keep quiet about the goings on at these places.<BR/><BR/>The top CPS judge in Travis County was formerly a "woman" named Jean Muir. They named our big county family court of law building after her. Alex Jones rightly used to always refer to her as a "monster."<BR/><BR/>Texas is a cesspool as far as caring for abused children.<BR/><BR/>I notice governor Rick Perry is keeping a very low profile in this national travesty. He is part of the most corrupt cabal that is the Texas juvenile protection and justice system.<BR/><BR/>Texans, stop messing with Texas children!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-49048727058678226802008-06-03T04:40:00.000-06:002008-06-03T04:40:00.000-06:00Here are some real gems...."The proposal also stip...Here are some real gems....<BR/><BR/>"The proposal also stipulated the parents would undergo parent counseling and cooperate with the ongoing investigation"<BR/><BR/>Now isn't that special. First an illegal and unjust invasion occurs and once the children have been kidnapped the kidnappers, caught with their proverbial pants down, turn around and finger the people they're abusing telling them to under go "counseling" while their illegal investigation continues. The nerve! Why don't the Texas courts grow some cajones and remove Walther?<BR/><BR/>"It also said case workers should have access to the ranch at "any and all times necessary to the investigators."<BR/><BR/>Simply amazing. After getting slapped they continue on as though nothing has happened. No consequences. Here again they need a swift kick in the butt and told once and for all to get their hands off. It's as though they're just begging for an excuse and drawing out the time to justify this sad charade.<BR/><BR/>I'm certain the decrepit Walther needs the bodyguards after starting this firestorm. Her arrogance seems to know no bounds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com