tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post5434937033159057852..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Stealing Camp Zoe: The Federal "Forfeiture" Gang StrikesWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-7581380664380132712013-03-14T12:15:04.956-06:002013-03-14T12:15:04.956-06:00You know you guys just didn't listen to well t...You know you guys just didn't listen to well to Timothy McVeigh.<br />One one or another.....you will!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58188807371074419622011-02-14T19:20:54.430-07:002011-02-14T19:20:54.430-07:00we need another YIPPIE only stronger with more peo...we need another YIPPIE only stronger with more people willing to dedicate themselves to the cause. all we are doing now is talking. TALK IS CHEAPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-28698064463913262882010-12-16T00:09:55.062-07:002010-12-16T00:09:55.062-07:00This http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/us/16bully....This http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/us/16bully.html?_r=1&hp NYTimes article might be of interest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-4874031518008590642010-12-15T03:16:46.901-07:002010-12-15T03:16:46.901-07:00Mr. Grigg, your article is an inspiration. I'v...Mr. Grigg, your article is an inspiration. I've never seen such an in-depth analysis from a local journalist. This entire situation is disgusting, pathetic, and a huge reminder about similar cases going down all over the country. <br /><br />The blatant use of intimidation is the most obvious tip-off regarding the SWAT function here. It's a damn shame that violence is the only thing that speaks to law enforcement, and it's the one tactic that decent people will refuse.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05187180344624646879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-36879043695564127872010-11-29T22:10:23.525-07:002010-11-29T22:10:23.525-07:00Mr. Grigg, I'm going to try something a bit mo...Mr. Grigg, I'm going to try something a bit more on-topic this time:<br /><br />http://rep-am.com/news/local/doc4cf0286db50bd245562728.txt<br /><br />(Warning: pop-ups.)<br /><br />I suggest sticking to the quotes of the allegedly mentally ill person--those make the most sense.TJPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-79019917601223912902010-11-29T11:21:23.364-07:002010-11-29T11:21:23.364-07:00Sheriff resigns, confessing online sales to help s...Sheriff resigns, confessing online sales to help stave off foreclosure Solano admits theft<br />Geoff Grammer and Bruce Krasnow | The New Mexican<br />Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2010<br /><br />Stating he is “like many Americans, caught up in financial crisis and facing foreclosure on his home, Santa Fe County Sheriff Greg Solano on Wednesday owned up to stealing county property and selling items on eBay for personal profit. <br /><br />http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Local%20News/Sheriff-Solano-resigns--admits-he-misused-office-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-85147998695623139352010-11-28T22:54:46.958-07:002010-11-28T22:54:46.958-07:00Lost hope the anti-Constitutional Kings of the USA...Lost hope the anti-Constitutional Kings of the USA will never stop sucking the blood and money from the general public, liberranter?<br /><br />Me too. It seems that Americans love being lorded over and nothing will ever change, except it will get worse.<br /><br />While Argentina is known as a hole, people have good things to say about Uruguay, even Argentinians.<br /><br />Check it out and let us know what you find out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-57927136352832655762010-11-28T21:46:25.133-07:002010-11-28T21:46:25.133-07:00Argentina is a shithole unless youre a multi milli...Argentina is a shithole unless youre a multi millionare and can afford to live in a gated community seperated from the poor souls left to suffer under the Kirschner regimeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-9187989100068411112010-11-28T14:06:07.664-07:002010-11-28T14:06:07.664-07:00The government-manufactured Portland incident to w...The government-manufactured Portland incident to which TJP linked would, in a country populated by thinking adults with IQs in the triple-digit range, finally drive a stake through the heart of the notion that any "real" terrorist incidents of the non-state-sponsored variety have ever taken place in this country, or that they ever will. Unfortunately, Amerika's population of adults of the sort that I describe is too small to enable me to make that assertion seriously. Count on the next <i>very obvious false-flag "terrorist" incident</i> to send the sheepletards into sharting convulsions and demanding that the State finally revoke, permanently, what few pale excuses for freedom we still have left.<br /><br />As for the asset forfeiture "laws" at the root of the travesty described here, count on them not having very much practical effect in the future. After all, once the State has finally robbed us of everything we own, there won't be any "assets" left to "forfeit."<br /><br />On that note, has anyone spent any quality time in Argentina recently? I've heard good things about the place and might decide to make it my new home...liberranterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-32910132799137050962010-11-28T01:25:35.957-07:002010-11-28T01:25:35.957-07:00TJP posted the latest piece of FBI "theater&q...TJP posted the latest piece of FBI "theater" to spring onto the public. Yet another goof who was under observation by undercover agents while he was allowed to drive a vehicle laden with a "fake" bomb to his intended destination. I even heard as much from the lips of an FBI mouthpiece on the evening boob tube. Can anyone truly make this junk up?! Like old Traficant used to say, "Beam me up!".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-72922520825688877632010-11-27T23:16:48.016-07:002010-11-27T23:16:48.016-07:00Police unions in Utah organized a show of force pe...<i>Police unions in Utah organized a show of force perfectly suitable to late Weimar-era Germany.</i><br /><br />Didn't they do something like this in The Godfather Part II? (See also <a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/stealing_scene_from_godfather_rqI4b4rudH6vUkTCs5JVAO" rel="nofollow">this article</a>.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-23314239668037916322010-11-27T20:56:20.114-07:002010-11-27T20:56:20.114-07:00Thanks, TJP!Thanks, TJP!William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-31533345440102493602010-11-27T20:14:21.817-07:002010-11-27T20:14:21.817-07:00Mr. Grigg,
In case you haven't heard of this ...Mr. Grigg,<br /><br />In case you haven't heard of this latest security theater:<br /><br />http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101128/ap_on_re_us/us_portland_car_bomb_plotTJPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-45510180468830014102010-11-27T05:34:24.182-07:002010-11-27T05:34:24.182-07:00Anonymous @7:10 PM,
Thank you. That was a very use...Anonymous @7:10 PM,<br />Thank you. That was a very useful article, better than the one I cited, with many links to other useful articles. So there were MANY eyewitnesses to the Underwear Bomber false-flag operation, not just thr Haskells, who said it stank like a dead fish.<br /><br />Friends,<br />Leviathan and its owners, the super-mega-rich and their mega-corporations, created an educational system 100 years ago in America, to turn out dumb, unthinking, unquestioning sheep as fodder for their factories and their armed forces, the latter so they could spread American economic domination over all the globe. Now, today, we have a dumbed-down, servile, uneducated, compliant mass of sheeple, that cares not even for its own welfare. DO NOT BLAME THEM. Those people who voted the Tea Partiers and Republicans into power, it is not their fault. THEY ARE NOT our enemy. It is the mega-rich and their bought politicians who are our enemy. Let us not fall for their divide-and-conquer strategy.<br /><br />Their greed is infinite. Literally. Now that they have stolen almost everything in this country that isn't bolted to the floor, they are turning their attention to the rest of the world via endless wars. They want it ALL. The whole world. ALL of it.<br /><br />This "asset forfeiture" is just ONE tiny symptom of their greed. Your unemployment (they don't need us robots any more because they have found cheaper robots in China,) your foreclosures (done with fraudulent signatures, and Congress and the courts seem to be unable to remedy that fraud,) the bailouts of the banks, the sale of assets to foreigners, from toll roads to toll bridges to buildings to (soon) National Parks, to which you will have to pay entrance fees to Shanghai Investment Corporation, ALL OF IT: Our country which our ancestors built with their blood and sweat, and every single thing we presently own and have labored for all our lives, are being brazenly stolen from us in broad daylight and sold out from under our feet.<br /><br />Goldman Sachs paid $14 million in taxes in 2008 on NET profits of $2.3 BILLION. (A tax rate of 0.6%) Then got $10 billion in bailouts from the Treasury and the Fed. Warren Bufett said publicly he pays less taxes than his secretary. So who owns the Government of the United States? Not you and me, for sure.<br /><br />How and when will it end? I don't know. I cannot see any light at the end of this tunnel. I see economic collapse, the deaths of billions from disease and starvation, wars, poverty, climate catastrophe, crop failures, desertification, the dire risk of accidental nuclear war. <br /><br />"For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places; All these are the BEGINNING of sorrows.... And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another; And many false prophets shall arise, and deceive many.... For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not seen since the beginning of the world, no, nor ever shall be."<br /><br />- Lemuel GulliverLemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-27900340117553419612010-11-26T19:10:42.892-07:002010-11-26T19:10:42.892-07:00@Lemuel, here is a short summary of the under-repo...@Lemuel, <a href="http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=158065870903115" rel="nofollow">here is a short summary of the under-reporting done in the underwear bomber case</a> that makes good forwarding material. Best case, the gov't is so incompetent, they, not knowing he had explosives, helped the bomber get on the plane so they could track him in the states (that is what Patrick F. Kennedy, an undersecretary for management at the State Department, <a href="http://clareswinney.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/us-state-department-admits-underwear-bomber-allowed-on-plane-to-supposedly-help-with-investigations-into-al-qaida/" rel="nofollow">implied</a>). Worst case, the failed attempt was planned and allowed to fail in exactly the way it did for propaganda and/or other reasons (e.g.; financial).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-70836934895351191102010-11-26T14:40:52.852-07:002010-11-26T14:40:52.852-07:00I'm sure my hometown has a lot of asset forfei...I'm sure my hometown has a lot of asset forfeitures but one sticks in mind: a fairly upscale brothel. It was located in a semi commercial area (restaurants bookstores coffeeshops for the most part) adjacent to an medium upscale neighborhood. Business owners, neighbors and police knew about it, but left it alone since there was never any problem. <br /><br />Suddenly it was raided. Seems the wife of a cop learned that her husband was spending a lot of money ther. I mean a lot. One could only wonder what kind of super service this place was offering. Anyway, the wife kicked up a real fuss and the place was shut down. All of the madam's assets were confiscated on the principle that anything she owned or was in her bank account was made from illegal activities. Before she even went to trial everything had been divvied up amount the tax eaters and thugs. she'd lost her money, her building, her house, and everything she owned. I'm surprised they left her the clothes on her back. So what would have happened if she'd been acquitted (not unlikely, though)? Would her property be returned>? The official response in the venacular was "tough."Marley Greinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15184124024369071862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-1801684010961124042010-11-26T09:36:46.194-07:002010-11-26T09:36:46.194-07:00This long post about the DEA, Jimmy Tebeau and Cam...This long post about the DEA, Jimmy Tebeau and Camp Zoe on the RFT blog really nailed the DEA to the wall on Zoe. Here is a link to RFT article:<br />http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/atoz/2010/11/camp_zoe_site_of_schwagstock_f.php<br /><br />This is really right on! <br /><br />Jerry says:<br /><br />"When you go to get a building permit in your county, will they issue it to you if there is something wrong? If Camp Zoe was the largest open drug air market in the Ozarks why did they continue to let it happen for 4 years??????? Collect sales tax from it? Put kids lives in danger? Does your tax dollars pay for Jimmy to train and protect us or law enforcement? From what this blogs says, these were big time drug dealers and the cops knowingly and willing let this happen for 4 years. Why did they want Jimmy to do their job? The lady who went to pull her daughter out of Camp Zoe was there what 1 hour and knew that there was drugs. How long did it take you to know drugs were being sold down there? Before you got your tent up? Have you been watching the news? Drug cartels will cut your head off if you try to stop them. Do you think Jimmy wanted to put his family at risk? Or his patrons? 4 YEARS why so long? The first drug purchase that an undercover agent made at Camp Zoe they should have made an arrest! The next permit Zoe wanted issued they should have said NO! We are sorry but we cannot issue you this permit. We have had undercover law enforcement in the crowd and something needs to be done to get a handle on the drug use! If someone smokes pot or serves a minor in a bar, they ticket the owners, if they think they were not trying to control it and give them a warning. 3 warnings and they take away their license. They do not seize the property. The State sends undercover, underage kids all the time into establishments even for cigarettes. They arrest the employee that served it on the spot and gives the place a fine. Why do people not understand and get it threw their thick head. Jimmy is NOT a Drug Enforcement Agent! Your tax dollars pays for the DEA to fight the war on drugs NOT Jimmy! If they need to shut the place down and no more Schwagstocks fine. But do not let them take his land. Let him sell it and get his money out of it. That is why you take a risk and make investments. His bank accounts have been frozen he cannot pay his staff, bills, property taxes and he has been charged with no crime. It is bullshit and everybody should fight like hell so that this does not keep happening to people. If the feds really need the money to fight the war on drugs so badly. They would Drug test everybody who is on or applying for government assistance. 25 year ago when I was in high school, we use to go to the doobie drive up (bus stop at the section 8 housing complex) anytime of the day and get weed, mdma, coke anything we wanted and from what I hear you still can today. I guess the feds are not able to take their own land so it will never stop. I also think that if they drug test all the people living in government housing. 1/2 the war on drugs would be won. Because then maybe work & food will be more important than drugs. The government could make so much money off that. Can you imagine? Not having to feed and house the people who are abusing the system. But giving it to the people that really need it. Wow! then I would think the war on drugs is worth it."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-44310863155665536712010-11-26T09:34:46.707-07:002010-11-26T09:34:46.707-07:00This long post about the DEA, Jimmy Tebeau and Cam...This long post about the DEA, Jimmy Tebeau and Camp Zoe on the RFT blog really nailed the DEA to the wall on Zoe. Here is a link to RFT article:<br />http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/atoz/2010/11/camp_zoe_site_of_schwagstock_f.php<br /><br />This is really right on! <br /><br />Jerry says:<br /><br />"When you go to get a building permit in your county, will they issue it to you if there is something wrong? If Camp Zoe was the largest open drug air market in the Ozarks why did they continue to let it happen for 4 years??????? Collect sales tax from it? Put kids lives in danger? Does your tax dollars pay for Jimmy to train and protect us or law enforcement? From what this blogs says, these were big time drug dealers and the cops knowingly and willing let this happen for 4 years. Why did they want Jimmy to do their job? The lady who went to pull her daughter out of Camp Zoe was there what 1 hour and knew that there was drugs. How long did it take you to know drugs were being sold down there? Before you got your tent up? Have you been watching the news? Drug cartels will cut your head off if you try to stop them. Do you think Jimmy wanted to put his family at risk? Or his patrons? 4 YEARS why so long? The first drug purchase that an undercover agent made at Camp Zoe they should have made an arrest! The next permit Zoe wanted issued they should have said NO! We are sorry but we cannot issue you this permit. We have had undercover law enforcement in the crowd and something needs to be done to get a handle on the drug use! If someone smokes pot or serves a minor in a bar, they ticket the owners, if they think they were not trying to control it and give them a warning. 3 warnings and they take away their license. They do not seize the property. The State sends undercover, underage kids all the time into establishments even for cigarettes. They arrest the employee that served it on the spot and gives the place a fine. Why do people not understand and get it threw their thick head. Jimmy is NOT a Drug Enforcement Agent! Your tax dollars pays for the DEA to fight the war on drugs NOT Jimmy! If they need to shut the place down and no more Schwagstocks fine. But do not let them take his land. Let him sell it and get his money out of it. That is why you take a risk and make investments. His bank accounts have been frozen he cannot pay his staff, bills, property taxes and he has been charged with no crime. It is bullshit and everybody should fight like hell so that this does not keep happening to people. If the feds really need the money to fight the war on drugs so badly. They would Drug test everybody who is on or applying for government assistance. 25 year ago when I was in high school, we use to go to the doobie drive up (bus stop at the section 8 housing complex) anytime of the day and get weed, mdma, coke anything we wanted and from what I hear you still can today. I guess the feds are not able to take their own land so it will never stop. I also think that if they drug test all the people living in government housing. 1/2 the war on drugs would be won. Because then maybe work & food will be more important than drugs. The government could make so much money off that. Can you imagine? Not having to feed and house the people who are abusing the system. But giving it to the people that really need it. Wow! then I would think the war on drugs is worth it."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-11502371531053094282010-11-25T02:44:15.990-07:002010-11-25T02:44:15.990-07:00What an incredibly well-written article! My congr...What an incredibly well-written article! My congratulations on this! The forfeiture laws are un-American. This is shocking. I have had dealings with Camp Zoe and they are a responsible bunch and in no way involved in any drug-dealing. This is ludicrous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-90543644334215074322010-11-25T01:25:44.465-07:002010-11-25T01:25:44.465-07:00Anonymous @ 11:34 PM,
If you actually believe the...Anonymous @ 11:34 PM,<br /><br />If you actually believe the false-flag "terrorist" attacks are done by real "terrorists," do yourself a favor and read this eyewitness account of the "Underwear Bomber" incident which prompted and justifies these porno-scanners:<br /><br />http://www.opednews.com/populum/print_friendly.php?p=The-Underwear-Bomber-More-by-pete-johnson-100106-351.html<br /><br />As for asset forfeiture, which is the ACTUAL topic of this post, (hey, really?!?) the essay speaks for itself. The "offending party" in these incidents, who is presumed to have committed a crime and is being "arrested," is not YOU, but your MONEY, your CAR, your HOUSE, whatever you own of value which they want to steal from you. Go figure.<br /><br />YOU personally do NOT have to commit any crime at all. Their rage and fury is directed at your PROPERTY, which is PRESUMED, in the absence of any proof or reasonable suspicion whatsoever, to be guilty of participating in crime, simply because it is valuable and THEY WANT IT.<br /><br />Friends, I see few comments on this essay. Does that mean nobody cares? Just wait till it happens to you. If you are so foolhardy as to drive a new red Corvette or BMW through one of these jurisdictions, they will take it from you because you don't look like you should be able to afford such a nice car.<br /><br />If they want your house, they will arrange for drug deals to go down in your yard. Don't call the cops, because they will let the dealers get away, and seize your house.<br /><br />If you are attending an auction and have a lot of cash in your pocket, they will take it away because the CASH, not you, is presumed to have engaged in drug crime. Guilty unti proven innocent. It will cost you a bond of $15,000 plus legal fees, just to bring an action in court to prove your property's innocence.<br /><br />You think I'm kidding, don't you?<br /><br />Just wait till the "economy" gets about 3 times worse than it is now, and these tax feeders are looking at losing their jobs just like all the rest of us already have. They will turn their guns and their greed on ANYONE - including you and me - who has anything worth stealing: Cash, gold coins, silver dollars, jewelry, guns, fancy cars, nicer houses than they think we should be allowed, valuable real estate, whatever. THEY WANT IT. And they will TAKE IT. At gunpoint.<br /><br />I kid you not.<br /><br />Go back up there and read the article again.<br /><br />- Lemuel Gulliver.Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-26596155316808768602010-11-24T13:02:00.421-07:002010-11-24T13:02:00.421-07:00Why don't they concertrate[sic] on the terrori...<i>Why don't they concertrate</i>[sic]<i> on the terrorist that keep sneaking explosives into our country!!!</i><br /><br />You're referring, I assume, to the CIA, FBI, and BATFE (the terrorists sneaking explosives into our country, that is, not the ones concentrated on stopping them)?liberranterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-15675393965428334762010-11-23T23:34:42.807-07:002010-11-23T23:34:42.807-07:00Leave us hippies alone. Why don't they concert...Leave us hippies alone. Why don't they concertrate on the terrorist that keep sneaking explosives into our country!!! Let there be Peace! !!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-62969405671214262342010-11-23T16:33:01.261-07:002010-11-23T16:33:01.261-07:00What I want to know is who suggested the Ossetian ...What I want to know is who suggested the Ossetian Strategy in Yeonpyeong. David Broder? I guess Iran isn't sufficiently belligerent for Keynesian broken windows social engineering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-37783098609553765502010-11-23T13:21:20.882-07:002010-11-23T13:21:20.882-07:00Sorry JP but your post is way off topic. Might as...Sorry JP but your post is way off topic. Might as well be some blog spammer from Hong Kong peddling the latest counterfeit Gucci bags.<br /><br />On topic... I'm exhausted simply reading this latest piece of Tragi-comedy that you've posted. The outrages from the TSA crossing the pat-down rubicon have kept me all buzzed up but before you know it the unfriendly fuzz garrisoning our states are exposed, once again, for the criminals they are. I'm so sick and tired of people making excuses for being employed by these jackals. Honestly now! I've already cut off one former friend because he works with the TSA. I no longer have anything to say to him. If he, and those like him, don't grasp what part in the fascist organs they play then they'll be more than happy to ship me off for "reeducation".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-48051444457367725612010-11-23T12:27:46.115-07:002010-11-23T12:27:46.115-07:00Sorry for the OT post but attention all you Kindle...Sorry for the OT post but attention all you Kindle owners, lend me your ears: My liberal/progressive rock-n-roll novel, <i>American Zen</i>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/American-Zen-ebook/dp/B004D9FUZ4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2&s=digital-text&qid=1290539538&sr=1-3" rel="nofollow">just went up for sale on Amazon Kindle</a> yesterday. So if you own any of the 10 varieties of Kindle, please give my novel some consideration. If you like what you read on my blog, you'll love <i>American Zen</i> and its take on love, life, politics, etc. There's also an option on the right side of my catalog page that enables you to see a 45 page sample and if you don't have Kindle for PC, you can d/l one for free. TIA.jurassicporkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01673461210301442978noreply@blogger.com