tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post3952842465909172184..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Chief Mark McBride: The Crime Lord of Idaho Falls William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-34158118935224934482016-06-06T12:38:58.278-06:002016-06-06T12:38:58.278-06:00I appreciate that, Mr. Frei. Thank you.
It would...I appreciate that, Mr. Frei. Thank you. <br /><br />It would appear that the fireman in question should have read the text, or at least the captions, before drawing his conclusions. <br /><br />Respectfully, <br /><br />Will Grigg William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-80329878513397861482016-06-06T12:22:07.866-06:002016-06-06T12:22:07.866-06:00Using my "normal intelligence", I read t...Using my "normal intelligence", I read the caption associated with your use of my photo and those following. Although I disagree with you on every point, I understand how you are using the picture and I withdraw my complaint. I was made aware of your use of my picture by a fireman who described it as me being"the face of IFPD corruption". I should have read your caption more closely. Dave Freinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-63444186027949348252016-06-06T10:42:01.600-06:002016-06-06T10:42:01.600-06:00Mr. Frei, the photograph was placed in the public ...Mr. Frei, the photograph was placed in the public domain by your former employer. If you can demonstrate to me that the Idaho Falls Police Department has withdrawn your likeness upon your request, I will remove it from my blog.<br /><br />The caption to the photograph makes it clear to people of normal intelligence that the officer depicted therein had nothing to do with the criminal assault on the Madrigal family. <br /><br />William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-13780672071004507812016-06-06T10:37:40.246-06:002016-06-06T10:37:40.246-06:00You are erroneously using my picture at the top of...You are erroneously using my picture at the top of your blog. I had nothing to do with this case, and have been retired for a year and a half. I demand that you stop illegally using my image. Dave FreiDave Freinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-91277451470682704852016-06-04T10:27:03.900-06:002016-06-04T10:27:03.900-06:00It wasn't the city of Idaho Falls that was res...It wasn't the city of Idaho Falls that was responsible?? The police are employees of the city of Idaho Falls. Of course the city is responsible. That is the responsibility, inherent of employing someone. If the city hires someone, and provides them with the weapons, tools and equipment to carry out an act of this nature,It certainly does make them responsible for the results of said action. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-13662515653068490532016-06-03T22:48:37.296-06:002016-06-03T22:48:37.296-06:00Would you be interested in discussing this with me...Would you be interested in discussing this with me? WNGrigg [at] MSN [dot] com. Thanks. William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-91473676074223717082016-06-03T22:37:00.634-06:002016-06-03T22:37:00.634-06:00Illegal search and seizure, cofidential informants...Illegal search and seizure, cofidential informants get away with everything, illegal use of a CI personal phone, entrapment, are just a few of their tricks. Prosecuting attorney s office is just a bad. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-26703936717540401732016-06-03T17:31:03.138-06:002016-06-03T17:31:03.138-06:00I lived in Idaho falls for twenty years. I can tel...I lived in Idaho falls for twenty years. I can tell you the police are crooked. I live in a city that's 10 times bigger and they have less officers working per shift. Every two minutes you turn another corner and bam there's another one. They pull people over for no reason other then race,poverty. Unless you're Mormon or racist get out now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11065570729746149235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-87212662596486787122016-06-02T20:37:25.072-06:002016-06-02T20:37:25.072-06:00Well ma'am or sir, whatever it is that you'...Well ma'am or sir, whatever it is that you've "heard" about the Madrigal family is exactly what you described it as, hearsay. Although you don't know these facts to be true or false, for some reason unknown to me, you still thought it was a good idea to puke it up on Facebook for others to see! Unlike you, I know the oldest son of this family very well. Actually, as a matter of fact, a lot of people in Idaho Falls know him. Probably because not only is he a good friend and teammate, he is also a great student and is currently out of state attending a college in Utah. Now you might not agree with me on this one, but this family's health care is none of mine, yours, or anyone else's business! Regardless of weather they use assistance from the state or not, I don't think that has anything to do with the fact they were assaulted by these officers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-23585137961991294262014-10-03T21:35:46.011-06:002014-10-03T21:35:46.011-06:00$279k is nothing in a legal battle like this. That...$279k is nothing in a legal battle like this. That's only 139.5 business days or 27.9 5 day work weeks at a very generous $250/hr. Taking on the police force means that $279k is likely not enough.<br /><br />The blame of this cost to the tax payers does not belong to the properly documented Dominican family. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-66004510660845265242014-06-04T00:55:00.242-06:002014-06-04T00:55:00.242-06:00So ... after all these years. That flat foot inbre...So ... after all these years. That flat foot inbred from roy utah made cheif ? Ill be go to hell . Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-26603256763585433752014-03-17T12:20:29.046-06:002014-03-17T12:20:29.046-06:00I did not write the tort; if I had, I would have f...I did not write the tort; if I had, I would have focused much more heavily on the libel committed by Chief McBride. I've been told that the Madrigals' attorney may file a supplemental claim. <br /><br />The Idaho Falls PD is the enforcement arm of the Idaho Falls Municipal Government. Ergo, the City of Idaho Falls (meaning the municipal corporation) <i>is</i> responsible for the crimes committed against the Madrigal family. And the city's tax victims are paying money for criminal acts as long as the perpetrators remain on the payroll. William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-53200177426079684532014-03-17T12:04:58.078-06:002014-03-17T12:04:58.078-06:00I have never argued whether or not the cops in the...I have never argued whether or not the cops in the case should be held accountable. They should definitely be fired and charged with criminal charges.<br /><br />I am asking why we (the citizens of Idaho Falls) should pay that much money for these criminal acts. It wasn't the City of Idaho Falls responsible for these crimes.<br /><br />Did you write the tort Mr. Grigg? <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-28750404644655528052014-03-17T11:48:15.124-06:002014-03-17T11:48:15.124-06:00It was Officer Lund who played the race card when ...It was Officer Lund who played the race card when he sneered that Victor should "leave" Idaho Falls, and then instigated a riot under color of law.<br /><br />It was Lund and his comrades who played the race card by making a <i>consciously false</i> report to immigration authorities that Victor and his brother may be "undocumented aliens" -- when both of them are US citizens, and the police knew that Victor possessed a valid Idaho State driver's license. <br /><br />"Embarrassment" is a mild description of the damage done to this family's public reputation. The officers who invaded the Madrigal home and assaulted several people filed a false police report accusing the victims of "assaulting" them; that official lie was retailed in the local media, along with mugshots of the two angry black men who had been arrested without cause. <br /><br />After the Post-Register published a reasonably balanced story demonstrating that the Madrigals' immediate neighbors blamed the police for this mess, Chief McBride published an op-ed in which he retailed unsubstantiated, anonymous gossip about the family and accused them of being a danger to the community. <br /><br />That act of official defamation <i> by itself</i> justifies punitive damages. <br /><br />As I have repeatedly said, the best arrangement would be to fire Chief McBride and the officers involved in this mess and force them to pay restitution to the victims: Levy their bank accounts, force them to sell their homes and cars, make them liquidate their personal assets and sell blood plasma, if necessary. <br /><br />Tax victims in Idaho Falls should demand that this be done. Each year, you are throwing away at least $279,000 to pay the salary and benefits of the corrupt chief and the abusive officers responsible for this outrage. Why aren't you incensed about that waste of money? How is this fair to "the majority of citizens" in Idaho Falls? <br /><br />Anybody who criticizes the Madrigals for filing a lawsuit, but doesn't <i><b>demand</b></i>, at very least, the firing of Lund, Rose, and McBride, is indisputably a hypocrite. Place the blame where it belongs.William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-91979367382253379552014-03-17T11:02:30.834-06:002014-03-17T11:02:30.834-06:00I think you are playing the race card not the post...I think you are playing the race card not the post you responded to.<br /> I would question anyone suing for that much in any similar case. I recently read an article that said lawsuits costs the average American tax payer over $900 per year. All I am asking is where is the fairness for the majority of citizens. <br /> They should be compensated for what was lost or damaged as a result of this case, but I believe that in the tort they are also suing for public embarrassment?????? How were they embarrassed as they were proven innocent.<br /><br />Also who typically benefits from such a lawsuit? I have read that 30-60% goes to the lawyer depending on the state of the tort, and then the winnings will also be taxed by the federal and state government. How much will this family get? We are ultimately throwing the money back in a different government agencies hand. While the rest of us write another check. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-72503500021542006182014-03-17T10:29:29.019-06:002014-03-17T10:29:29.019-06:00This arrangement is immoral, but the victims are n...This arrangement is immoral, but the victims are not at fault here: It is all but impossible to sue abusive police officers individually because of the toxic and fraudulent doctrine of "qualified immunity," which forces tax victims to indemnify criminal misconduct by cops. <br /><br />I suggested that a better arrangement would be to take money for a civil award out of the police department's pension fund. <br /><br />In addition to $2,000 in property damage (a felony amount), the Madrigals have legal and medical bills to deal with, as well as lost wages. They are also entitled to punitive damages: Victor, Dindo, and their mother were assaulted, the brothers were abducted, and they were threatened with deportation -- actually, exile, given that they are US citizens -- out of simple malice. <br /><br />They aren't asking for a seven-figure award, and that fact alone makes it clear that they aren't motivated by purely mercenary concerns. <br /><br />As a native of southeastern Idaho who went to high school and college in Rexburg and lived in Idaho Falls, I find myself asking: <br /><br />All other matters being unaltered, would critics of the Madrigals' lawsuit accuse that family of money-grubbing if the gainfully employed and hard-working husband were blonde-haired, blue-eyed, and of Nordic ancestry, rather than being a large black man who speaks with a foreign accent? If the family's surname were, let's say, "Manwaring," and they attended a local LDS ward every Sunday, would people be so ready to criticize them for being "greedy" if they demanded $279,000 after having their home invaded and family members assaulted without cause by the police? <br /><br />William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-53747651855907723662014-03-17T10:19:49.178-06:002014-03-17T10:19:49.178-06:00Of course they want money, they are taking it fro...Of course they want money, they are taking it from the hard working people of Idaho Falls now. They aren't suing the thug police that started this. They should sue for property damage, medical bills, attorney fees, and time away from work for this case. However, they want $279,000 for this all at taxpayer expense. All I saw in the report above was that the police caused $2,000 of property damage. This is hardly fair for the Idaho Falls community. This is as a immoral misdeed as the IFPD's actions that warm fall night. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-67243661148422208552014-03-16T08:44:33.967-06:002014-03-16T08:44:33.967-06:00I see reading comprehension isn't among your g...I see reading comprehension isn't among your gifts. (The same is apparently true of spelling.) The brothers are named Victor and Delosanto, not "Victor and Victor." That detail is difficult to miss, but then again you <i>do</i> appear to have a gift for missing the obvious.<br /><br />As noted above, none of the Madrigals' immediate neighbors had a problem with the late-summer party -- to which they had all been invited. The <i>only</i> problem the neighbors experienced that night resulted from the tumult and chaos that occurred when the police arrived and staged a riot. <br /><br /><br />William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-83839660381408885872014-03-16T08:06:06.911-06:002014-03-16T08:06:06.911-06:00Who is really the "victim" here. If th...Who is really the "victim" here. If they would have worked with the neighbor and toned it down, the cops would never have been called. Maybe Victor and Victor, wow Grandma has a real imagination need to man up to their irresponsibility. No teh y want money. <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-44739939384333653202014-03-12T09:14:45.443-06:002014-03-12T09:14:45.443-06:00Alissa Madrigal is very much a "Mrs."; I...Alissa Madrigal is very much a "Mrs."; I suspect using the post-feminist title is part of the standard legal template, because I see it used consistently in legal filings of this kind. William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-29811383930648264252014-03-12T08:08:47.845-06:002014-03-12T08:08:47.845-06:00I saw that when the tort was filed for this case. ...I saw that when the tort was filed for this case. The wife was listed as Ms. My question is ( I have never read many legal documents). shouldn't it have been filed as Mrs. Madrigal?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-55033156481979358632014-03-10T16:03:37.561-06:002014-03-10T16:03:37.561-06:00Fire the police force, prosecute the specific offe...Fire the police force, prosecute the specific offenders, <i>and</i> seize the requisite amount from their pension fund to compensate the Madrigals for the criminal injuries they suffered. Justice requires restitution. William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-68755854040930146912014-03-10T15:31:39.992-06:002014-03-10T15:31:39.992-06:00I say fire the police force. Just don't allow...I say fire the police force. Just don't allow this family to walk away with $279,000 unless it comes from the police themselves. Why turn one crime into another. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-83780116329863158732014-03-10T14:12:10.213-06:002014-03-10T14:12:10.213-06:00Anon @1:24 wrote:
I would love to go through what...Anon @1:24 wrote:<br /><br /><i>I would love to go through what this family went through to get as much money as they are suing for. Hell I would love to be tazed if I knew that I was getting a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.</i><br /><br />Leave McBride in his current position, and let the criminal actions of his underlings go unpunished, and you may have that opportunity -- assuming that you survive the encounter. William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-43864392813848807882014-03-10T13:50:31.025-06:002014-03-10T13:50:31.025-06:00Will inform these people if you know them personal...Will inform these people if you know them personally to never use the word suffer.....or any form of it. Look it up, it is evil that you have allowed and accepted.....We always need to comprehend and know the words you are using, with the minions of the father of lies...... that have stolen justice in fraud from our honorable courts. "My people are destroyed for a want of knowledge."Patrick Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09590826175356201052noreply@blogger.com