tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post3925292911877031155..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Inside the FBI's Terrorism FactoryWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-18079904794134525622011-04-03T02:17:52.053-06:002011-04-03T02:17:52.053-06:00Mark F: Wouldn’t it be a better idea to concentrat...Mark F: Wouldn’t it be a better idea to concentrate on the whitewash of American history? How about the slaughter of the Native Americans? (Grant said in his inaugural address that if the Indians didn’t adopt our ways, we would start [continue] an extermination program. Nobody batted an eye.) How about starting a fake war with Mexico to steal half their land? Or using 10-year-old Filipino boys for target practice? How about destroying Dresden and the civilians therein? Nagasaki? Hiroshima? Carpet-bombing? The Civil War, maybe? The CIA roams the earth continually like a roaring lion starting wars between countries, executing elected leaders and installing “our” people, starting revolutions, and killing people. Has any country but this one used atomic weapons (WMD, let’s call them) on civilians? Has any other country used them, period? How about the founding fathers starting a war with England – not to liberate America, but so they could steal from (tax) the “toilers,” as president McKinley called us. Your chances of being murdered by the govt are greater than being murdered by a non-govt terrorist. I don’t know how many unarmed people are shot daily by the police, but I know that seven people die every month after being tased. <br /><br />Each state has a terrorism awareness program, mostly written by the Southern Poverty Law Center, but I think most of them were yanked off the internet after Alabama’s went viral and the state dhs closed down temporarily because of all the traffic. However, the PA Terrorist Awareness Program is still online. Three short pages are devoted to “International” terrorism while a full eight pages are devoted to “homegrown” terrorism. (It is almost word-for-word like AL's). If you want to know what groups the u.s. govt thinks may produce terrorists, read from Talha Rizvi’s response above: “animal rights, pro-environment, anti-abortion, tax-freedom, pro-secession etc.”<br /><br />This is from the <a href="http://www.pa-aware.org/portal/server.pt/community/who_are_terrorists_/10081" rel="nofollow">PA Terrorist Awareness Program:</a><br /><br /><i>“The modern Anti-Government movement [terrorists, according to the govt] evolved in reaction to gun control laws of the 1990s; the federal government’s actions at Waco (Branch Davidians); the federal government’s actions at Ruby Ridge (Randy Weaver)."</i> Somewhere it is mentioned that if you talk about the constitution a lot, you could be a terrorist. <br /><br /><i>"There are separatist and nationalist movements all over the world. These are people wanting their own homeland. Some separatists are willing to commit crimes to secure this independence. <br /><br />"Separatist groups within the U.S. include: White Supremacists; Black Separatists/Nationalists; Puerto Rican Nationalists; American Indian Activists; Neo-Confederates.”</i> (Oddly enough, Pennsylvania has neo-confederates while Alabama just has “hate” groups.)<br /><br />Then there are the “single issue” groups, the most dangerous group of all, according to “law” enforcement, which includes Talha Rizi’s list above and, well, EVERYBODY ELSE. Are you a loner? Are you an extrovert? Then you are on A List.Yossariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-19784803741737430272011-04-02T21:44:21.970-06:002011-04-02T21:44:21.970-06:00Anonymous @12:03 PM,
Your God? Your God? Your God...Anonymous @12:03 PM,<br /><br />Your God? Your God? Your God is a simpering little shrimp from Texas, with all the character of a hyena. People like you are the reason the power elite, the oligarchs, and the politicians are so totally contemptuous of the "Great American People." One cannot blame them. A bunch of vacuous, twittering little girls, devoid of character, devoid of brains, devoid of curiosity, devoid of ambition, and devoid of testicles. You will bend over again and again, and let them all take turns screwing you to the wall. You and your ilk are are a pathetic herd of suck-titty jackasses, braying at the moon - I wish you and your whole furry family a long life. Very long indeed. I hope you all live long enough to discover, and spend many years pondering, just how thoroughly you have been screwed by those vampires you thought were your "heroes."<br /> <br />Mr. Grigg,<br />I am dropping out of this small forum of talking heads. I have better things to do with my time than preach to the choir, or try to get through the swamp gas between the ears of people like Anonymous who is afraid to give his name, and who STILL thinks George Bush was the greatest President we ever had. <br /> <br />Seriously - this is not because of the nameless jackass - he is not even worth heaping contempt upon - but because I have started a new project which will take a lot of my time, and composing these long screeds is more than I can continue to do.<br /> <br />America is doomed, economically, socially, morally, and educationally, and all your preaching, or mine, will do nothing to change that. After the unimaginably foul and numberless vicious crimes this country has committed over the past 100 years, it deserves everything that is coming to it. Be assured I shall watch its collapse with great satisfaction. If you want my opinion, I recommend you divide your wonderful children into two groups, and teach one group Chinese, and the other Hebrew. That will assure them a far better future than your maintaining this blog. <br /> <br />Better yet, pretend you are from Ethiopia and convert to Judaism. It might work. (For sure, you couldn't pass for Chinese.)<br /> <br />From time to time I may come back here, to see if you are still around, and to read about how you are all changing the world. Sometimes, after all, one needs a good laugh in order to relax and unwind. (Do you remember the prelude to the War on Iraq? Ten million people demonstrated loudly in some 50 cities all around the world against that war - ten million! - and see how much difference THAT made.)<br /> <br />Enjoy your life in Idaho, and by all means keep on telling your audience how royally they are being screwed. It will not make one flea-turd's worth of difference, except that it will keep all the slaves down in the back pasture happy, while they discuss how they will one day own the plantation.<br /> <br />Live long and prosper!<br /> <br /> - Lemuel Gulliver.Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-66872566129384947662011-04-02T18:52:24.833-06:002011-04-02T18:52:24.833-06:00Not as tight as your ass, or so your boyfriend tol...Not as tight as your ass, or so your boyfriend told me.Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-77341871044595530332011-04-02T12:03:21.986-06:002011-04-02T12:03:21.986-06:00My God, Lemuel, does your tinfoil hat ever get too...My God, Lemuel, does your tinfoil hat ever get too tight?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-32259824590577738472011-04-02T09:24:10.020-06:002011-04-02T09:24:10.020-06:00Sorry I don't buy the revisionist bent to whit...Sorry I don't buy the revisionist bent to whitewash Islamic history. History tells a tale of muslim warmongering, not "defensive jihad." Islam was spread by the sword not by the good news of Allah's salvation. If not for Charles Martel in France, the bulwark of Constantinople, and Sobieski in eastern Europe, there would have been no Reformation, as all of Europe would be facing Mecca today. Just how were these aggressive wars of Islam defensive? Were the Barbary Pirates also being defensive when they hijacked ships and enslaved their sailors? Do I also need to review the litany of muslim-lit brushfires that continue to this day? -Philippines, Kashmir, Sudan, Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Kosovo, etc. <br /><br />I respect your moral integrity but you are wayoff in this.Mark F.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-6841447694105767472011-04-02T00:20:46.225-06:002011-04-02T00:20:46.225-06:00Great article as usual from Grigg. Yet again, thi...Great article as usual from Grigg. Yet again, this shows that the worship of the state, and of the state at war, is far more dangerous than even any established religion.<br /><br />Also, I could be wrong, but I don't think 9-11 was a false flag op. Based on everything I have read, it appears to be similar to the "sneak attack" of Pearl Harbor where the US government did its best to bait an enemy, knew they were coming, and sat back and let it happen to allow a drastic increase in the state's power and approval from the public for war.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-86013502914417943622011-04-01T09:39:00.597-06:002011-04-01T09:39:00.597-06:00I've never heard that before, but it doesn'...I've never heard that before, but it doesn't shock me. Who benefited? This was the best thing that ever happened to the u.s. gov't. It is not only the gift that keeps on giving, but apparently, it is eternal. It's so embarrassing; all these years later other countries have had tragedies and moved on, but not us. We will not budge an inch from 9/11.Yossariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-42899901967591130832011-04-01T02:12:42.917-06:002011-04-01T02:12:42.917-06:00Yossarian,
9-11 was NOT "blowback." It...Yossarian,<br /> <br />9-11 was NOT "blowback." It was a false flag operation, conceived right here in America by powerful Republicans, and implemented by the CIA, the Pakistani ISI, the Mossad, and possibly also Turkish Intelligence. The central characters were the Bush Crime Family and their Friends, the Bin Laden Family, and the ibn Saud Royal Family. The factor tying all these families together was their membership in the Carlyle Group. <br /> <br />All the wacko conspiracy theories since then have either been started and promoted by the Government, or encouraged by them, in order to distract the public's attention from the central questions: WHO KNEW? And also, WHO PLANNED IT? <br /> <br />The evidence is all there for anyone with an enquiring and open mind to see, but I like my life, so I will not enumerate it. The most powerful people in the world are not immune from assassination by the people who planned 9-11. They have done it before, many times, and can do it again. It would be pointless to even try to expose them. After they murdered 3,000 people in cold blood, any too-curious individual can be exterminated like stepping on a bug. I swear to you, I am making none of this up.<br /> <br />This case of Cromitie is just one more ludicrous terror operation by the DHS, after Shoe bombers and Underwear bombers and SUV bombers and Christmas Tree bombers. What will they pull next - Toilet Bowl bombers? Barbie Doll bombers? Sesame Bagel bombers?<br /><br />I can just see the headlines: "Cuban Model's Breast Implants Found to be Explosive Devices." We know what sort of warped enjoyment TSA employees can anticipate after THAT false flag operation. Or perhaps, for those TSA goons of a different sexual persuasion, "Cuban Woman in Men's Clothing Tries To Board Plane While Wearing Penis and Testicles Molded from Plastic Explosives." That would cause a rush to join the TSA among the members of NAMBLA. (If that has not already happened - one wonders sometimes...)<br /> <br />The employees of Moloch either have an extremely warped sense of humor, or they think, perhaps correctly, that America is populated by cretins.<br /> <br />Or, more likely, the whole DHS, TSA, CIA, DIA, FBI, NRO, PDQ and the other 1,928 surveillance organizations spending our tax money are peopled with sexual and moral deviants.<br /> <br /> - Lemuel Gulliver.Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-1370810927943739732011-03-31T22:42:18.251-06:002011-03-31T22:42:18.251-06:00The financial ruin of the US Gunvernment cannot co...The financial ruin of the US Gunvernment cannot come soon enough.<br />Bankruptcy will bring this whole rotten criminal enterprise right to its knees. <br />Justice in this country - my ass! There is no justice for those hapless proles who happen to be in the way when the dragoons sweep through.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-1907713226901434072011-03-31T21:06:10.518-06:002011-03-31T21:06:10.518-06:00Oh, yeah, and guess who said this:
“It is obvious...Oh, yeah, and guess who said this:<br /><br />“It is obviously impracticable in the federal government of these states, to secure all rights of independent sovereignty to each, and yet provide for the interest and safety of all: INDIVIDUALS entering into society, MUST GIVE UP A SHARE OF LIBERTY to preserve the rest. The magnitude of the sacrifice must depend as well on situation and circumstance, as on the object to be obtained. It is at all times difficult to draw with precision the line between those rights WHICH MUST BE SURRENDERED, and those which may be reserved; and on the present occasion this difficulty was encreased by a difference among the several states as to their situation, extent, habits, and particular interests.”<br /><br />It sounds like George Bush except it’s English. Old formal English. George Washington English. It is from <a href="http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=788&chapter=108751&layout=html&Itemid=27" rel="nofollow">Washington’s Letter of Transmittal to the President of the Continental Congress, September 17, 1787.</a><br /><br />"Conceived in liberty?" I don't think so.Yossariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-25664016409812789442011-03-31T20:28:17.217-06:002011-03-31T20:28:17.217-06:00I feel so sorry for these people! They are NOT ter...I feel so sorry for these people! They are NOT terrorists; they are manufactured “terrorists” by the government who will now spend years in prison if not the rest of their lives because when the government gets through with them, they must face a group of 12 people called jurors culled from a “jury pool”; during voir dire, they get the “opinions” of the jurors and the outcome is assured. I was recently called for jury duty and was surprised that during voir dire, the DA lays out the entire case and wants to know what we think about it. I said “Why you're trying him a second time for the same crime. That’s double jeopardy.” The others that agreed with me and myself certainly did not serve on that jury.<br /><br />Lemuel, you are so right: for the last ten years I have read remarks and responses from “Christians” to Muslims and Muslims to “Christians” and you don’t have to guess which religion sounds righteous and which sounds mean-spirited and bigoted. Christians don’t read their Bible, except for the soothing verses “For God so loved the world…” They only wear those “What Would Jesus Do” bracelets so they can do the opposite.<br /><br />I am ashamed to say that it took 9/11 to open my eyes to what our gov’t does. For one thing, the NSA knew that two of bin Laden’s followers were headed to California. This alarmed an FBI agent who worked there, so he wrote a memo to his superiors to get the word out to NOT allow these two men to enter the US. Well, his boss at the NSA spiked the memo, the two terrorists freely entered the US, took flying lessons, hooked up with their fellow terrorists and the rest is history. (The man who spiked the memo was later promoted, of course.)<br /><br />So the gov’t knew a year before that bin Laden was planning something here; he even said so. But we needed a new enemy, and so what that Americans must die? I took Ron Paul’s advice and bought the book “Blowback” by Chalmers Johnson. In the introduction he wrote “The American people may not know what is done in their name, but those on the receiving end surely do…” Now I know. The Muslims are no more my enemies than the Cubans are, but the Amerikan government surely is.<br /><br />9/11 was a gift to the gov’t, better even than the idiotic “Drug War.” Did you notice that it took them exactly one second to go from foreign terrorism to homegrown terrorism? (Which they must manufacture themselves.)Yossariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-52754214403654049702011-03-30T20:11:38.760-06:002011-03-30T20:11:38.760-06:00The Federal Bureau of Inquisition has once again s...The Federal Bureau of Inquisition has once again saved the good people of Amerika by exposing the witches within their mists. The truth about Mr.Cromitie will soon be exposed by the Grand Inquisitor Napolitano when she throws him into a lake. If he floats he's a terrorist; If he doesn't float it's because he's a new, more devious terrorist: one who was weighed down by explosives hidden inside his body. Which means, of course, that the TSA must now give everyone a pre-death autopsy to ensure the security of Der Homeland.<br /><br />(Yeah, I mixed my metaphors but I work fourteen hours a day and drink probably way too many White Russians before hitting the sheets, so give me a little slack.)whitebuffalohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03538355208030340243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-53664910391269261242011-03-30T17:38:52.968-06:002011-03-30T17:38:52.968-06:00Surah 9:5,
"Then, when the sacred months have...Surah 9:5,<br />"Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."<br /><br />And verse 6 teaches that if the idolaters seeks Muslim protection it is to be granted to them, but if the idolaters do not seek Muslim protection, they are to "repent and establish worship"; which is to say they are to convert to Islam, the straight path, or be slain, for Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-28173488965364144042011-03-30T10:36:07.895-06:002011-03-30T10:36:07.895-06:00Abdul Haq,
Thanks for the response to Mr. 'An...Abdul Haq,<br /><br />Thanks for the response to Mr. 'Anonymous' - you beat me to the punch. Anyone who reads the entire set of verses knows logically it is far more nuanced and specific to a certain context; how can you be commanded to 'slay them wherever you find them' and then later preach to a non-Muslim and then 'escort him to where he can be secure' - how can he be secure anywhere you know his location. <br /><br />Also - about the jizyah - it was left out that this was only for fighting-age males who had the requisite income. I bet most people don't know this, but under classic Islamic law there is one category of person who has absolutely no tax liability at all and can still benefit from the state protection and service; the non-Muslim woman! Assuming she does not own cultivated land (which is generally taxed for all), she can be wealthy beyond belief, owning businesses, etc., but owes nothing, absolutely nothing to the state. This is stated unequivocally in the classic manual 'Ahkam As-Sultaniyyah' (Rules of Governance by Imam Mawardi). That's right non-Muslim ladies - it's (tax-free) ladies' nights (and days) in dar us-salaam!<br /><br />But getting back to the point as this is not generally a forum for theological niceties; this should scare any citizen. If the government wants to villify and target any particular group (animal rights, pro-environment, anti-abortion, tax-freedom, pro-secession etc.) it can use these same tactics to take a person from a reasonable passionate stance into one who is able to destroy lives and property with the right persuasion and coaching. These saps are then paraded in front of the cameras to rouse the public and put in more draconian measures to monitor that particular groups or restrict their activities.<br /><br />Mr. Grigg, you champion all our liberties, may God bless you and your family!Talha Rizvinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58039671622241810092011-03-30T00:23:07.388-06:002011-03-30T00:23:07.388-06:00Lesson learned: Beware of Islam. It's dangerou...<em>Lesson learned: Beware of Islam. It's dangerous in its own right...</em><br /><br />No more dangerous than any other organized religion.Frankhttp://www.facebook.com/incaseyoumisseditnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-80939538511042284442011-03-29T23:30:53.061-06:002011-03-29T23:30:53.061-06:00Abdul Haq,
Thank you. Anyone can quote words and...Abdul Haq,<br /> <br />Thank you. Anyone can quote words and point to actions out of context. One could accuse Jesus of committing suicide by not even attempting to escape his fate, and paint Christianity as a dangerous and corrupt "suicide cult." Obviously, that is not the whole story, by a long shot.<br /><br />I remember a scene, I believe from the movie, "A Passage to India," or it might have been from "Gandhi" - A Hindu peasant boasts, "I know a Christian. She drinks blood. Every Sunday." Such are the fruits of ignorance and religious propaganda.<br /> <br />Many "Christians" have not even read their own Bible, but rely on "preachers" and "ministers" to tell them what it says. Just like quotations from the Koran, these snippets of text are often taken out of context, and are used to support the most outrageous positions. <br /> <br />Too often, the intent of these authority figures is not to enlighten, uplift, educate or liberate the people, but to confuse, control, subjugate and enslave them.<br /> <br />Most regrettably, these same deluded people end up sitting on juries, in judgment of unfortunates like Cromitie who have been targeted by Moloch and Leviathan for persecution and destruction.<br /> <br />Moloch's purpose in hunting down and crucifying these innocent victims is not the pursuit of justice or law, but the stirring up of fear and hatred, to further control the ignorant, the gullible and the mentally lazy. <br /> <br />It is all lies. Let us all fix this thought in our minds: Every single thing, without exception, that the Government says, or does, or pretends to believe, is a vile, filthy, foul, ugly, callous, corrupt, nasty, bloodsucking, stinking, rotten, motherfucking LIE.<br /> <br /> - Lemuel Gulliver.<br /><br />(PS: Please excuse the inadequacy of my language to fully convey the depravity and filth of our Satan-worshiping rulers.)Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-88685493477819144102011-03-29T16:57:49.505-06:002011-03-29T16:57:49.505-06:00Mr. Grigg, as usual, a fantastic column. I am send...Mr. Grigg, as usual, a fantastic column. I am sending this off to all my Islamophobic friends and relatives who still worry there might be a Muslim 'terrist' under the bed.<br /><br />In response to 'Anonymous':<br /><br />"The jizyah"<br /><br />Historically, during the Muslim conquests of the 7th century, the jizyah was a single tax which replaced the regimen of taxes non-Muslim rulers had previously inflicted on their subjects to pay for the state's expensive and pointless wars and bureaucracies. The Jizyah tended to be far less burdensome than the previous taxes non-Muslims suffered at the hands of their co-religionists, which is one of the reasons why many an over-taxed and war-weary Christian welcomed the Muslims invaders with open arms in the 7th century (the fact that Muslims didn't care about Christian doctrinal disputes, while the Byzantines were slaughtering their own subjects over them, was another big factor).<br /><br />"slay the idolaters wherever you find them" (Koran 9:9)<br /><br />First off, this is 9:5 - not 9:9 - and you should finish reading the rest of the verse before you go spouting off: "...but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." The next few verses say: "If one amongst the pagans [the polytheists of Mecca who were out to destroy the nascent Muslim community] ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure: That is because they are men without knowledge. (6) How can there be a league before Allah and His Messenger, with the pagans, except those with whom ye made a treaty near the Sacred Mosque? As long as these stand true to you stand ye true to them: for Allah doth love the righteous. (7)"<br /><br />"In fact, the title of Koran 8 is "Spoils""<br /><br />Other surah names include "al-Baqara" (the Cow), "al-Nahl" (the Honey Bees), and "al-Talaq" (Divorce). Are we to take it based on this that Islam is a religion of cow-worshipping beekeepers who love getting divorced? Most of the big Old Testament prophets also have a Surah named after them, as well as Mary, mother of Jesus. The fact that two or three of the 114 Surahs have names relating to warfare is supposed to mean what, exactly?<br /><br />"the record of Muhammad's brigandry is not in doubt."<br /><br />Is it? If the dozen or so years of non-resistant passivism preached and practiced by the Muslims in Mecca before being driven into exile qualifies as some kind of 'brigandry', well, I don't know what to tell you. It was only after the civil authorities in Mecca tried to murder Muhammed and forced the Muslims to leave the city of their birth that they took up the sword in their own defense. Of course Muhammed had to fight a few battles - he and his people were at war with an enemy that was out to utterly destroy them. Muhammed's legendary brigandry is pretty tame compared to many of the prophets of the Old Testament, who annihilated entire tribes of people.<br /><br />"Lesson learned: Beware of Islam."<br /><br />I think the lesson here is to beware of ignorant buffoons who would lead one off the path of truth and justice.Abdul Haqnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-8223681898166346412011-03-29T13:07:37.800-06:002011-03-29T13:07:37.800-06:00Fascinating story. If the relevant facts have been...Fascinating story. If the relevant facts have been represented fairly, then, yes, James Cromitie was railroaded by FBI Special Agent Robert Fuller and his allies. In fact, by the end I was wondering what motives Shahed Hussain could have had for his participation. And why does Agent Fuller have so little better to do than to manipulate a weakminded man like Cromitie? Aren't there any Islamic terrorists in the USA more dangerous than Cromitie? Maybe Shahed Hussain is one such terrorist, and he cut a deal to save his own skin. Or maybe Hussain is a common criminal who needed to cut a deal to save his own skin....<br /><br />...Ok, I just skimmed Doyle Murphy's article at the Times-Herald Record. Sure enough, Hussain had legal troubles, esp. immigration ones. Clever racket that those FBI guys have set up. <br /><br />Still, I think a little skepticism is called for when dealing with Islam and Muslims. The jizyah (Koran 9:29), the protection fee due to Muslims from dhimmis, is in no way a "defensive enterprise". Nor is the command to "slay the idolaters wherever you find them" (Koran 9:9). In fact, the title of Koran 8 is "Spoils", "Al-Anfal", and the record of Muhammad's brigandry is not in doubt. The guy was a nasty, clever gangster. Even the great battle of Badr was provoked by Muslims when word got around that some Muslims were planning to raid a caravan.<br /><br />And what about people who refuse both to accept Islam and to accept dhimmi status? When Muslims are a majority, or at least have the sufficient numbers and ability to act in concert, no one can reasonably expect that nonmuslims who refuse dhimmitude will be treated as equal to or better than dhimmis.<br /><br />I wonder if James Cromitie even knew what he was getting hisself into when he converted. It would not have been the first time that a person joined a cult without first conducting an investigation with due diligence. <br /><br />Lesson learned: Beware of Islam. It's dangerous in its own right and might put you at risk of the FBI's careerists, too, even if you are naive about Islam and harbor no malice toward nonmuslims upon your conversion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com