tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post361547708325665861..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: All the Reich MovesWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-20031184747138887472011-10-10T15:51:13.394-06:002011-10-10T15:51:13.394-06:00On the topic of police receiving AR-15's. Poli...On the topic of police receiving AR-15's. Police used to and some still carry shot-guns, those weapons I would expect you to still cry about? Police carry their sidearms for the rare occasion they may use it. It is the same reason they want assualt rifles more and more police forces around the world not just the U.S. are moving to assualt rifles over the traditional shotgun. This has nothing to do with any of you just police forces modernizing as criminals do the same, grow upAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-22901516392276772402010-02-03T10:58:56.725-07:002010-02-03T10:58:56.725-07:00Very well written.
I am hoping that the America...Very well written. <br /><br /> I am hoping that the American people are waking up and will throw the idiots out of office. Unfortunately we are give a choice of the red puppet or the blue puppet but the strings are held by the same hands.<br /><br />The State sovereignty movement seems to be our best bet. That and the military oath keepers. Unfortunately they have probably been singled out for use as front line cannon fodder on foreign shores.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-8917083598869432782010-01-23T14:01:24.853-07:002010-01-23T14:01:24.853-07:00I have asked the police, the country commission, e...I have asked the police, the country commission, even both my Assembly elected officials and the Governor to justify the purchase of military equipment for the civilian police. <br /><br />These morons either give some spill about the police need them to protect me or for their safety. This is garbage, and I then inquire about my liberty over their safety, this is usually out and out ignored by them,for they will not answer the question at all. <br /><br />The fact is, they don't care about either our liberty or safety. They just the ability to take both from us. <br /><br />Well, they can try - at their peril.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-17688202498644533762010-01-18T21:13:55.099-07:002010-01-18T21:13:55.099-07:00Bush-era memos saw rights limits in U.S. ‘terror w...Bush-era memos saw rights limits in U.S. ‘terror war’<br /><br />March 3, 2009 <br /><br />by Randall Mikkelsen<br />Reuters<br /><br /> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. military could have kicked in doors to raid a suspected terrorist cell in the United States without a warrant under a Bush-era legal memo the Justice Department made public on Monday.<br /><br />The memo, from October 23, 2001, also said constitutional free-speech protections and a prohibition on unreasonable search and seizure could take a back seat to military needs in fighting terrorism inside the country.<br /><br />It was one of nine previously undisclosed memos and legal opinions which shed light on former President George W. Bush's legal guidance as he launched a war against terrorism after the September 11 attacks.<br /><br />"The government's compelling interests in wartime justify restrictions on the scope of individual liberty," it said.<br /><br />Other memos held that the president had broad power to detain U.S. citizens suspected of terrorism and to suspend treaty obligations on issues as seen fit.<br /><br />The memos depict an administration apparently determined to assert sweeping powers for the president after the shock of September 11, and add fuel to critics' charges that fundamental constitutional protections were threatened in the process.<br /><br />"The current campaign against terrorism may require even broader exercises of federal power domestically," Justice Department officials John Yoo and Robert Delahunty wrote White House counsel Alberto Gonzales in the October 23 memo.<br /><br />"We do not think that a military commander carrying out a raid on a terrorist cell would be required to demonstrate probable cause or to obtain a (search) warrant," they said.<br /><br />The Supreme Court has held that the Constitution's Fourth Amendment ordinarily requires a probable cause and a warrant to execute a search. However, the memo said those requirements "are unsuited to the demands of wartime."<br /><br />Furthermore, it said, "First Amendment speech and press rights may also be subordinated to the overriding need to wage war successfully."<br /><br />The Justice Department under Bush had fought a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union which sought to make that and other the legal memos public.<br />"These memos essentially argue that the president has a blank check to disregard the Constitution during wartime," said Jameel Jaffer, national security director for the ACLU.<br /><br />The memos could also increase Democratic calls for wide investigations to shed light on Bush's security practices, such as a "truth commission" proposed by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy. Leahy said they help illustrate Bush's "misguided national security policies."<br /><br />Bush's Justice Department disavowed the early advice in a final memo dated days before U.S. President Barack Obama took office, and Obama later declared all of the memos invalid.<br /><br />The January 15, 2009 memo from the Bush department's Office of Legal Counsel said: "The following propositions contained in the opinions .... do not currently reflect, and have not for some years reflected, the views of the OLC."<br /><br />It said the counsel's office had not relied on the opinions since 2003 "and on several occasions we have already acknowledged the doubtful nature of these propositions."<br /><br />The memos' release was the latest move in the Obama administration's swift repudiation of many of Bush's counterterrorism policies, which have been criticized by U.S. allies and advocates of human rights and civil liberties.<br /><br />U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said he intended to release future legal counsel opinions when possible, "while still protecting national security information and ensuring robust internal executive branch debate and decision-making."<br />The ACLU welcomed the decision to make the documents public but said it hoped this was the first step in a broader release.Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-87283793654249457142010-01-18T18:29:51.268-07:002010-01-18T18:29:51.268-07:00Once again many thanks. I am taking full advantage...Once again many thanks. I am taking full advantage of the Pulitzer Prize<br />Board's new rules for online journalism.<br />I am nominating you.<br />Awesome stuff!<br />Sadly true.<br />Now all you have to do is sit back and wait for the applause...<br />I'm sure that the newest board member will quickly agree that you deserve the Award. And who knows? He may even start publishing you in his Politico blab.<br />Wouldn't this country be great if we still upheld the valor of true journalistic endeavor?<br />BobAbigailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13050409261681036719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-87803822705697614242010-01-17T09:54:14.642-07:002010-01-17T09:54:14.642-07:00Frankly, none of us can see the future. Many today...Frankly, none of us can see the future. Many today are using history as their guide to try and understand the changes that are taking place in America today. Which is a very intelligent way to try and find answers for how to roll with the punches. <br />The more critical thinking people in America have been watching what is going on in keen awareness for years now. However it seems many new citizens have joined the ranks of critical thinkers to look for answers. Nevertheless, most Americans know something is very wrong with the direction this country is headed. They may not understand how government works or understand history but their God giving common sense for self preservation is kicking in.AvgJoenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-60139609686072703902010-01-17T09:20:51.650-07:002010-01-17T09:20:51.650-07:00Thanks for your kind words, David S.
You're r...Thanks for your kind words, David S.<br /><br />You're right in pointing out that Odom doesn't want the future to unfold as he anticipates, but at the time he wrote the book he seemed to be convinced that America would descend into lawlessness of the kind that could only be cured through dictatorship. I doubt that his views have changed significantly post-9/11.<br /><br />"When" -- not "if" -- "America's `man on horseback' prevails, he may find interesting what I attribute as the cause of our nation's decline," writes Odom. He admits that his scenario in its specifics is the product of a "writer's fancy," but insists that "an American dictator will emerge between 2013 and 2029."<br /><br />"If I were to depict his true draconian potential, it would be ten times worse than any I outline in this book," he observes. I take this to mean that the regime he describes could be taken as his preferred outcome of several very dismal futures.William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58135259278614498802010-01-17T01:52:18.120-07:002010-01-17T01:52:18.120-07:00"While I may be blind to some Swiftian subtle..."While I may be blind to some Swiftian subtlety in Odom's writing, it seems clear to me that the author eagerly anticipates a military dictatorship. . ."<br /><br />For what it's worth, Odem denies this. While looking on Amazon.com, I found the following statement in the introduction (pg 4-5):<br /><br />"Does America’s Man on Horseback represent my wishes for the future of this great nation? Certainly not!"<br /><br />Nevertheless, excellent writing, as usual, Will.<br /><br />David S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-44071488663266530102010-01-17T01:22:59.879-07:002010-01-17T01:22:59.879-07:00There is a second area of parallel between Nazi Ge...There is a second area of parallel between Nazi Germany and America, which somewhat contradicts your thesis: <br /><br />The main clandestine opposition to Nazism, and the source of most of the attempts on Hitler's life, originated in the German military establishment. This was because they were informed enough to see the catastrophe Hitler was bringing about, and only the top military had the access to Hitler to do something about it.<br /><br />Similarly in America, the only reason that Bush was unable to establish a military dictatorship and incarcerate all his opponents in concentration camps, which to this day stand empty, ready and waiting to house 1-2 million dissidents in remote areas of Western states, was because the military brass told him he was nuts, they categorically refused to go against the Constitution and attack the American public for Bush and Cheney, and also told him if there WAS a military coup, Bush and Cheney would be the first people to be arrested and jailed.<br /><br />Trust me, this is true. You will never hear it mentioned in public - these were verbal exchanges behind closed doors in the White House.<br /><br />However, the coordination of local police forces under a national umbrella, and the militarization thereof, closely parallel the creation of the SS and the absorbtion of the various domestic Third Reich police forces under Heinrich Himmler, head of the SS. Initially, Goering was in charge of some police forces, but when these (including the Gestapo,) were all subsumed into the SS, Goering was eased out and given command of the Luftwaffe instead.<br /><br />(The Gestapo was responsible for domestic intelligence and spying, and the arrest and transport of Jews and other undesirable elements to the Konzentrations-Lage or camps, which were operated by the SS. This is what the FBI now does in America. The umbrella SS was a private Nazi Party paramilitary police force, similar to the position of Blackwater/Xe in the USA under the Bush Adminstration. Fortunately for us, Hurricane Katrina and an economic collapse spoiled the Republican plans.)<br /><br />So do NOT blame the US military. They are probably the most loyal and patriotic branch of our official establishment, and to them we owe the preservation of our liberties against the evil designs of BushCo. <br /><br />The same cannot be said for the CIA, the FBI, the TSA, the DHS, and local police forces - these are steadily becoming a cabal of criminal mafias, mostly loyal to the Republican Party, although the Democratic Party too is rapidly selling out to the same fascist and corporatist interests that have traditionally been served by the Republicans.<br /><br />Mr. Grigg, there you have it. Truth AND consequences all in one bitter pill. I hope your readers understand the implications and follow the links to investigate INFRAGARD - this is too important to be ignored.<br /><br />Lemuel Gulliver.Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58618857931133946762010-01-17T01:22:30.583-07:002010-01-17T01:22:30.583-07:00Mr. Grigg, & fellow Libertarians,
Your headli...Mr. Grigg, & fellow Libertarians,<br /><br />Your headline, "All the Reich Moves" is more apt than you know. <br /><br />There is in fact a domestic spying organization, called INFRAGARD, set up by the FBI, which is directly modeled on the Gestapo "Vertrauens-Leute" or "V-Leute" (Trusted People) program. The V-Leute program recruited office workers, schoolteachers, bus drivers, shopkeepers, and landlords, as well as prominent industrialists, politicians, miltary people, doctors, and others, to be spies for the Gestapo. As a result, even though the Gestapo had at its peak only about 35,000 career law-enforcement officers, there was a universal public fear in Germany of openly expressing opinions unfavorable to the Nazi Party and its policies, (including the extermination of Jews, which was widely known about but never discussed.) There was an impression in Nazi Germany that "spies were everywhere, watching and listening," which they were. <br /><br />Now we have the same thing in this country. How do you think 800,000 people have managed to get their names on the "no-fly" lists?<br /><br />Here in America, nobody realizes that INFRAGARD is directly modeled on the techniques and structure of the Gestapo "V-Leute," as expounded to the US Government by Heinrich Mueller, the supreme head of the Gestapo who reported directly to Heinrich Himmler, and who worked in America for the CIA and the FBI from 1948 to the mid-1950s. Although his presence in the US is strenuously denied by the USGOV, Heini Mueller's grave (he died in 1983) is in Mountain View, CA, the gravestone bearing the single word: "Mueller."<br /><br />The website of INFRAGARD may be found at: http://www.infragard.net/<br /><br />INFRAGARD has by its own admission 34,000 members, although this may be understated, and 39 local chapters, each headed by an FBI official. An exposition of the parallels between the Gestapo's "V-Leute" program and INFRAGARD may be found at: <br /><br />http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a3008.htm<br /><br />It is amazing that this sort of officially sponsored Nazi-style spying by Americans on Americans can go on, in the full light of day, and nobody knows or cares about it.<br /><br />(Continued....)Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-14047111197987054762010-01-16T23:07:01.874-07:002010-01-16T23:07:01.874-07:00Guns everywhere. New weapons coming out everday an...Guns everywhere. New weapons coming out everday and they are not guns. The Gestapo will experience a lot of new warfare when civil revolt begins. Think like James Bond. Our priorities will be to destroy Government Militias at all costs. It's going to be a nasty time for The USA. Of course the world be looking on and celebrating the fall of this once great Nation. Does this irk you? If so, you're on the hit list as well. We will cleanse this country of corruption and restore our REPUBLIC and all traitors to the Constitution will be executed. Hope for America is not lost if you still posess backbone with no yellow streak running down your back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-13511821185748080092010-01-16T21:57:25.159-07:002010-01-16T21:57:25.159-07:00Hope you are the same PL from H&R, love your b...Hope you are the same PL from H&R, love your blog!Sukihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06797443729831393366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-3473243437939628672010-01-16T15:16:05.978-07:002010-01-16T15:16:05.978-07:00TO the guy complaining about "assault rifle&q...TO the guy complaining about "assault rifle" terminology, this is not the place for that gun geek crap. If that is what you're worried about after reading this article, you need to get your priorities straight. <br /><br />I have read a lot of scary stuff on the web over the last 15 years, most of it tinfoil nonsense, but this is among the worst, probably because it's so credible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-22543518194638808622010-01-15T23:03:52.766-07:002010-01-15T23:03:52.766-07:00Yep, I can see the fans of Sarah Palin rooting for...Yep, I can see the fans of Sarah Palin rooting for Odom's scenario, and I can see Bill 0'Limbaugh Beck supporting it on the radio, with Mark Levin calling for the arrest of Ron and Rand Paul. Anyway...So this will be America's "V for Vendetta" scenario....just another reason to get out of the system.<br />http://www.somethinghappeninghere.netD.L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18210410457920036147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-34417478615488146092010-01-15T18:11:32.255-07:002010-01-15T18:11:32.255-07:00Odious as Odom's tome is, reactions to it may ...Odious as Odom's tome is, reactions to it may prove useful in prioritizing the list of those who need a bullet in the ear hole, when the inevitable polarization into Resistor and Collaborator camps occurs.<br /><br />-AleGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-90005682877870736302010-01-15T17:23:57.517-07:002010-01-15T17:23:57.517-07:00I must correct one thing. The opening picture of t...I must correct one thing. The opening picture of the man the "assault rifle"- it probably is just a semi-auto not. Also, even if it was an automatic weapons, it should only be called an "assault" weapon if it's in a private citizen's possession. They are properly called "patrol" rifles in the hands of a god.zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05334525584242029389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-57371476345564915562010-01-15T07:36:02.311-07:002010-01-15T07:36:02.311-07:00Dear Mr. Grigg!
As always I read your post with g...Dear Mr. Grigg!<br /><br />As always I read your post with great interest.<br /><br />However, the picture of the soldier with the "doing the work of" patch seems to be a photoshop.<br /><br />According to www.snopes.com, the original can be found here:<br />http://www.arrc.nato.int/pictures/kfor/imageshr/gistandi.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-4584547823346163952010-01-15T03:19:46.991-07:002010-01-15T03:19:46.991-07:00Will, you must be channeling the very conversation...Will, you must be channeling the very conversations I have with a friend of mine in Texas! How eerie can it get when it was this very sort of discussion we were having and in particular we were discussing an article he forwarded to me from some fellow named McIntosh. This fella wrote as though he eagerly anticipated and, I gather between the lines, even "hoped" for a military solution. I told my buddy that he'd better hope the hell it never came to that because the gang of rats we have in charge both in the civilian and military wings of our military-industrial complesx of a country haven't seen fit to stop or disobey unlawful and murderous actions in the past nor the present and most certainly he'd shouldn't be surprised when they turn the guns on us! Short term solutions with deadly consequences for the majority of us is what is in store.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com