tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post3302731058660193706..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Clarence Dupnik's Death SquadWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-21199818110500651642011-07-06T16:37:36.913-06:002011-07-06T16:37:36.913-06:00And if you think your opinion of Pima County polit...And if you think your opinion of Pima County politics could not possibly sink any lower...Ladies and gentlemen, take note:<br /><br />http://www.kvoa.com/news/pima-county-republicans-ask-chairman-to-step-down/<br /><br />http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/07/03/pima-county-republicans-attack-oath-keeper-chairman/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-40997141232895247672011-06-15T08:18:27.076-06:002011-06-15T08:18:27.076-06:00And now we have this: http://www.examiner.com/crim...And now we have this: <a rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/crime-prevention-in-tucson/swat-killing-is-justified</a>. A lovely outraged protest from William Heuisler at the Tuscon Examiner regarding the usual pronouncement by the system that no wrong was committed by its agents. <br /><br />But, not outraged enough. Mr. Heuisler will settle for an abject apology from the Sheriff, as there "is no question of <i>criminal</i> liability" because the thugswarm didn't <i>intend</i> to kill anyone. Anyone with "real knowledge of ... our laws" should know this, according to Heuisler. Apparently in Tuscon "real knowledge" doesn't include concepts like negligent homicide and felony murder. The piece sounds as if it were written by an idiot who not only doesn't have a clue, but doesn't even share a zip code with one. <br /><br />Yet his bio says that he has a Bachelor's in Criminal Justice, so it can hardly be ordinary cluelessness that causes him to declare the actions of these murderers to be a non-crime. How can we explain this ridiculous assertion? Aha! The bio also says that he is a former U.S. Marine and Tuscon cop. It begins to become clear.Befuddlednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-12276281107436644042011-06-13T22:21:55.665-06:002011-06-13T22:21:55.665-06:00I saw this comment over at The Daily Bell and thou...I saw this comment over at The Daily Bell and thought it meshed well with this article:<br /><br />Elites would have you believe the ONLY way to oppose them is by using defensive violence. This is a trap, because they will spin your defense as offense (eg: terrorists) and, the majority will believe them and "consent" to them smiting you AND the increased security costs / loss of rights required to deal with those who oppose power and are thus defined as criminals. Violent defense empowers police states which is why they try so hard to provoke YOU to violence.<br /><br />If you want to fight and WIN, there is only one effective way to do it. Make "crime not pay" by increasing the costs of their predations (be not low hanging fruit) and, do your best to make sure they do not profit by preying on you. By passively defensive actions, withdraw your consent. Then, reality will take over and "Mathematics of Rule" will insure that "crime does not pay": <br /><br />http://www.nazisociopaths.org/modules/article/view.article.php/c1/32Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-21847661635587897792011-06-12T11:20:05.879-06:002011-06-12T11:20:05.879-06:00Quote: (...) However, it is a moral certainty that...Quote: (...) However, it is a moral certainty that Clarence Dupnik is the chieftain of a "very violent organization" that can kill innocent people with impunity. (...)<br /><br />?<br /><br />Do you read me ? What do you do when there is no official law-enforcement anymore, and therefore tyranny threatens ? Do you bunch in America realize what happens if you let this stand ? http://blogger.xs4all.nl/joshb/archive/2011/06/10/661024.aspx<br /><br />I've decided to stick my neck out on this with some risk, because I believe you guys are right now knuckling under to a vicious ultra-dangerous (namely high tech) tyranny, and YOU SHOULD NOT DO THAT. Wake up ! Wake up ! Stop the chit-chat or you may be chit-chatting either in a Death camp, forced labor camp or thrown at the front lines of war with a view of getting you all murdered. Stuff is getting serious, do not let this stand. I'm not an American, I'm looking at all thes (every day) from a far distance, and maybe therefore I have another perspective that is less close up, so take into consideration that - maybe - it is time to make sure justice is served either way.jos boersemahttp://www.law4.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-26372299460880360632011-06-11T13:53:07.766-06:002011-06-11T13:53:07.766-06:00Why does the fedgov own most of the land in the We...Why does the fedgov own most of the land in the West? I saw a map, <a href="http://bigthink.com/ideas/21343" rel="nofollow">Who Owns the West?</a>, that shows what percentage of land in each state is owned by the fedgov. It owns 41.8% of New Mexico but only 1.9% of bordering Texas; 42.3% of Wyoming but only 6.2% of bordering So. Dakota and 1.4% of bordering Nebraska. I know, I know. They really own 100% of all the land, but why the huge discrepancy in how much The Huddled Masses are "allowed" to rent in the West as opposed to the rest of the country?<br /><br />This is from the accompanying article: <i>"These federal lands are used as military bases or testing grounds, nature parks and reserves and indian reservations, or <b>are leased to the private sector for commercial exploitation</b> (e.g. forestry, mining, agriculture)."</i><br /><br />ha ha ha.<br /><br />Does the gov own so much of the West so the unwashed masses won't get all uppity and pretentious with all that crazy talk of independence?Yossariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-13612913659177780562011-06-11T10:29:21.534-06:002011-06-11T10:29:21.534-06:00"Non-violence and compliance with their order..."Non-violence and compliance with their orders WILL NOT WORK".<br /><br />Lemuel, Indeed, that will not work....that is simply submission. However, non-violent NON-compliance is likely the only thing that could be effective here. These....people have demonstrated no problem in using violence, and face no personal repercussions for doing so. The same is not true of you and I-in either case I would hope, we are neither thugs or are above the law, yes? <br /><br />It follows then that violence plays only into there hands-I believe much closer to 2 million sets of heavily armed hands than 300 K, btw-does it not? <br /><br />Personally, I think the most ominous tidbit has been missed by most commentors-if it is true that they have taken to using "drop guns" in home invasions here as they do in Iraq-and it does rather make sense in this case considering the wife's statement and their allowing him to bleed out-then, sadly, we ain't seen nothing yet.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02177932285682768110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-83808970446195436082011-06-11T04:42:49.357-06:002011-06-11T04:42:49.357-06:00Well, you do have to admit he was formerly part of...Well, you do have to admit he was formerly part of an highly organized and truly violent organization.<br /> The USMCjselvyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09441795049452839191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-9704282231632110722011-06-10T20:06:39.705-06:002011-06-10T20:06:39.705-06:00One says, "How can this kind of force be stop...One says, "How can this kind of force be stopped?"<br /><br />Another says, "The citizens of Tucson need to mob up"<br /><br />Yet another says, "this type of behavior is not acceptable and will not be tolerated?"<br /><br />From replies I read elsewhere, it's just that too many People don't want to stop this kind of force, they've already mobbed up, their votes and continued silence says this type of behavior is completely acceptable - not only will it be tolerated - it will be glorified and rationalized, because after all, like the troops overseas, they are keeping us safe.<br /><br />(Excuse me, I almost threw-up writing that)<br /><br />The more PERSONALLY these atrocities begin to cost the perpetrators, the more glorified they become in the eyes of the mob and the more justified the actions become in the eyes of the mob.<br /><br />They know the line which cannot be crossed, Alexander Slzhenitsyn will be taken but they will not arrest a quarter of the entire city, therefore the mob remains pliant.<br /><br />There are at least three choices, maybe more, one choice is not to decide at all, that seems to be the path of the majority.<br /><br />Opting out of the state as best as possible while waiting for everything to crash due to its own lopsided weight seems to a good option. <br />Be nimble to avoid being fallen on and cross your fingers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-76391464594994492232011-06-10T13:53:18.814-06:002011-06-10T13:53:18.814-06:00Warrant and supporting affidavit: http://www.kvoa...Warrant and supporting affidavit: http://www.kvoa.com/files/Scanned%20Document0582_000.pdfJerri Lynn Wardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-26387550299316069432011-06-09T00:02:05.096-06:002011-06-09T00:02:05.096-06:00If a few tens of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans d...If a few tens of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans dressed in sandals and bedsheets can keep at bay hundreds of thousands of American soldiers, armed with F-16s, Apache helicopters, C-130 gunships, tanks, cluster bombs, artillery, missiles, and more, then there is no reason the American public cannot deal with these overfed assholes in sunglasses and jackboots. <br /><br />They are pussies. Frightened, quivering Bloatos hiding behind a badge and their cowboy costume. All it would take would be a couple of hundred of them out in their cruisers to suddenly have their skulls explode as a hunting rifle round passes through them, and they would all go hide in their precincts and refuse to come out. All 300,000 of them, or however many of them there are.<br /><br />They treat us Mundanes as enemies. The more they abuse us, they know full well the more angry we become. And then the more they are afraid of us. And then the more they abuse us. Get that? Until they are stopped by force, it will only get worse, and worse, and worse. Non-violence and compliance with their orders WILL NOT WORK. That just makes them more apprehensive and more brutal.<br /><br />Did the Iraqi people do anything against Leviathan before they were attacked? No. Have we done anything to Leviathan before being attacked? No. But the State is waging war on us, who thought we were its own people.<br /><br />Wake up and smell the coffee, people. America is no longer our land. This is now the land of the bankers, the corporations, the CEOs, the politicians, and the rich. We, who just want enough to live and feed our children, are their enemy. They themselves have declared that we are their enemy. And they are our enemy. This is war. There are two choices: Fight back, or die.<br /><br />Choose.<br /><br />Lemuel Gulliver.Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-41132652188950364442011-06-08T22:23:28.162-06:002011-06-08T22:23:28.162-06:00Wow. All that to go after what they thought were ...Wow. All that to go after what they thought were a woman alone with a toddler? What a bunch of chickenshit pussies. For all their murderous acts, I'm starting to lose my fear of the badge punks.NStahlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-47112253163557366672011-06-08T17:27:00.611-06:002011-06-08T17:27:00.611-06:00All I can say is that even here in Idaho, state an...All I can say is that even here in Idaho, state and local governments see dollar signs easier than they hear constituants.<br /><br />jkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-36343668519173772512011-06-08T13:22:51.105-06:002011-06-08T13:22:51.105-06:00Sibkiss:
For all we know, the Chinese, or some co...Sibkiss:<br /><br />For all we know, the Chinese, or some corporate entity among them, just might now actually <i>own</i> that part of Idaho (along with God only knows how much more of Amerika).liberranterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-81715129514058632172011-06-08T10:35:12.564-06:002011-06-08T10:35:12.564-06:00DID YOU READ ABOUT THIS? IJUST READ IT TODAY AND W...DID YOU READ ABOUT THIS? IJUST READ IT TODAY AND WAS SURPRISED, BUT SINCE YOU ARE IN IDAHO, WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON THERE?<br />http://www.infowars.com/china-wants-to-construct-a-50-square-mile-self-sustaining-city-south-of-boise-idaho/Sibkisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03773228589005471731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-12320098001446983162011-06-08T01:21:40.807-06:002011-06-08T01:21:40.807-06:00Idahobob, I have to assume that you've never v...Idahobob, I have to assume that you've never visited Tucson. Otherwise, you would know that you routinely flush things down your toilet that are both smarter than and have firmer backbones than any living Tucsonan. While the libertarian in me simply won't let me declare "Tucsonans have the 'government' they damned well deserve and I wish I could give them even more of it from afar after I get the hell out of here," five years of residency in this town just <i>might</i> make me change my mind if I hang around here much longer.<br /><br />William: My only comment on your embedded pic of Clarence "the Dope" Dupnik is that it must have come from a PCSO source, for it makes him look far too dignified and infinitely more intelligent than he actually is. <br /><br />Finally, let us all pray for Graham County Sheriff Richard Mack. He is a pearl among swine here in the Grand Scamyon State.liberranterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-47324937344427631642011-06-07T14:37:30.160-06:002011-06-07T14:37:30.160-06:00"And how we burned in the camps later, thinki..."And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."Alexander Slzhenitsynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58268005892075554142011-06-07T13:05:29.573-06:002011-06-07T13:05:29.573-06:00It won't stop until these atrocities begin to ...It won't stop until these atrocities begin to cost the perpetrators PERSONALLY. When every such "raid" results in a pile of dead ninjas, and neighbors from miles around rally to support the innocent... then it might begin to change.<br /><br />When such monsters KNOW that there is a darn good chance they won't "go home at the end of their shift..." then it might become more difficult to find men willing to attack and murder innocent people like this.<br /><br />But those who send out the death squads must begin to pay a personal price for their crimes as well. <br /><br />Politician, rope, lamp post - some assembly requiredMamaLibertyhttp://www.thepriceofliberty.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-55048057285621498752011-06-07T11:08:32.515-06:002011-06-07T11:08:32.515-06:00What form of communication will be required for go...What form of communication will be required for government thugs to understand that this type of behavior is not acceptable and will not be tolerated?JdLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-32052127117625104282011-06-07T08:22:45.690-06:002011-06-07T08:22:45.690-06:00As I have stated before.....The citizens of Tucson...As I have stated before.....The citizens of Tucson need to mob up and storm the Bastille.<br /><br />Understand?<br /><br />Bob<br />IIIidahobobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857771751176894988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-67865166837845566922011-06-07T08:21:09.981-06:002011-06-07T08:21:09.981-06:00How can this kind of force be stopped? What can we...How can this kind of force be stopped? What can we do? I'm so angry after reading this--I do not trust one police officeer and never will again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com