tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post1872999203982902559..comments2024-03-08T07:09:46.527-07:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Dr. Raskolnikov, I Presume? William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-80928311159471910712014-01-17T03:30:02.258-07:002014-01-17T03:30:02.258-07:00"Great men smash laws, smash old ways, in ord..."Great men smash laws, smash old ways, in order to create new ones. Great men are not afraid to be criminals."<br /><br />"Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most."<br /><br />"Man grows used to everything, the scoundrel."<br /><br />"Talking nonsense is man's only privilege that distinguishes him from all other organisms."<br /><br />Nothing in this world is harder than speaking the truth, nothing easier than flattery."<br /><br />"If not reason, then the devil."<br /><br />"Pain and suffering are always inevitable for a large intelligence and a deep heart. The really great men must, I think, have great sadness on Earth."<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLdIyTOPaE4Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06770579905760964055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-15942796415825017562014-01-14T11:40:44.868-07:002014-01-14T11:40:44.868-07:00MoT, grow up and stop ignoring the great importanc...MoT, grow up and stop ignoring the great importance of a very bad idea that was promoted by Rothbard not "over forty years ago" but in the early 1990s, near the end of his career. Maybe it would help you to bear in mind also the title of this blog. Do that then notice that Rothbard's nasty advice about unleashing cops was not given "over forty years ago" as you disingenuously suggested in your snide reply.<br /><br />It's by the way that a few unleashed cops in California beat the rap for the assault, battery, and killing of Kelly Thomas. So much for subjecting them "to liability when they are in error." So, I say...<br /><br />Releash all cops. Divide American cops against their federal protectors*. Disarm cops. Slash their pay and benefits to bring their weight down to a level at which they can be managed by individuals, esp. those who lack their advantages in terms of training and centralized coordination. Recognize that cops everywhere in the world are the occupation forces of crime syndicates, and do not be that law and order conservative who refuses to concede that every leftist despotism would be a impossible dream without cops.<br /><br /><br />* It's ironic that the John Birch Society, too, doesn't want local cops federalized. But of course the JBS will want local cops to remained armed and unleashed. Thus do they despise "'civilian review boards'".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-36014309339460490192014-01-09T11:52:43.132-07:002014-01-09T11:52:43.132-07:00@anon... Sweet Jebus! You've essentially hija...@anon... Sweet Jebus! You've essentially hijacked the comments over an article about a homeless man being beaten to death, as you yourself supposedly "claim" to be homeless, and direct the comments towards what Rothbard said over forty years ago. Mission accomplished I assume.MoTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-36633346543316096332014-01-08T18:12:57.924-07:002014-01-08T18:12:57.924-07:00Keith, I think that you've missed most of my p...Keith, I think that you've missed most of my point about Rothbard's outlandish call to "unleash the cops". If Rothbard had been genuinely interested in curtailing statism, he might have called for cops to be disarmed. Then he would have called for their pensions to be abolished. In fact, a thoroughgoing antistatist would not have called for beating up on people who are at most a trivial nuisance but instead suggested that the homeless be unleased, perhaps in exchange for pay, upon the goon squads of the political class. Targeting the Fraternal Order of Police, too, would have been a nice touch.<br /><br />But, no.<br /><br />Rothbard of all people was aware of the tendency of powerful people to abuse their power and to grasp for ever more power. But how, once ALL COPS have been unleashed, would cops be put back on suitably short leashes such that mistaken ones can be held liable for their errors?<br /><br />So, now we need to explain MNR's remarks, and my best hypothesis so far is that he was suffering from a phenomenon called magnification. As one ages, one's character flaws become more intense. It would be ironic if I'm correct, for it stands to reason that Rothbard's own "soul-sickness" was written about by none other than Murray N. Rothbard in 1969. Perhaps it was but the first of several projection alerts.<br /><br />It's by the way that Lew Rockwell's fingerprints are all over "Right-Wing Populism".<br /><br /><br />-Anonymous, and still homeless, as of 3:07 PM, 5 January, 2014.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-63291875711711642242014-01-07T17:55:03.515-07:002014-01-07T17:55:03.515-07:00Another example of protecting and serving:
http:/...Another example of protecting and serving:<br /><br />http://www.thedailysheeple.com/this-shocking-video-of-laughing-nj-cops-brutalizing-a-young-prisoner-doesnt-need-audio-to-horrify-you_012014Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-75207502724013403452014-01-06T13:00:29.925-07:002014-01-06T13:00:29.925-07:00This is sickening to look at and read a mentally i...This is sickening to look at and read a mentally ill person needs help not to be beaten to death.<br /><br />But quite a few if not many sadly think that is what should be done to the mentally ill, to the poor and destitute just kill them and be done with it.<br /><br />The same type of thinking nazi germany had.<br /><br />as for the cops in question shame on them such force was not needed against that man. You would think think they were fighting a professional killer but no they just bullied a mentally ill man to such a degree it cost said man his life.<br /><br />cops once thought as protectors now are nothing but state sanctioned thugs and the real troubling thing about this is cases like this are on the rise and good cops woe them if they try to interfere in this they will reprimanded and possibly fired.<br /><br />The reason why so many go corrupt there no good examples to follow only bad all around which makes people decide good is not good for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-83877759364695983092014-01-06T09:35:57.886-07:002014-01-06T09:35:57.886-07:00Check out this story from Brunswick County NC. I&#...Check out this story from Brunswick County NC. I'm originally from the area and they have had deep issues with that agency for decades. This is just another incident in a long line. When I read the story I was completely unsurprised it happened there.<br /><br />Parents call police, cops show up and kill 18-year-old son...<br />http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/05/parents-call-police-for-help-cops-show-up-and-kill-their-18-year-old-son/<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-2734415740984948182014-01-06T05:38:52.180-07:002014-01-06T05:38:52.180-07:00Anon Jan 5th,
Your quotes would have much more ef...Anon Jan 5th,<br /><br />Your quotes would have much more effect if you actually provided references, so that readers who are curious or plain skeptical that you may have quoted out of context, can go check for themselves.<br /><br />"Right-Wing Populism," was first published alling with "For President: Pat Buchanan," "Buchanan for President" (with L. H. Rockwell, Jr.), "Right-Wing Populism," "Time for War!" <br /><br />In: Rothbard-Rockwell Report. Burlingame, CA: Center for Libertarian Studies, Vol. 3 No. 1 (January 1992).<br /><br />It is reproduced and available as a free .PDF here: http://mises.org/document/4305/The-Irrepressible-Rothbard<br /><br />The section which you quote is reproduced on Page 41.<br /><br />The background is of Rothbard trying to create an alliance of libertarian's with "old right" conservatives (as opposed to the big government Buckleyite neo-cons).<br /><br />Though I've only scan read it so far, I'm actually surprised and dismayed at its content. <br /><br />My initial response is that it shows the dangers of participating in the process by which one section of society claims the legal "right" to enrich itself by abuse of and theft from the rest of society - that class of behaviour which would seek to justify gang rape, lynch mobs and looting - "will of a majority"<br /><br />I'll be reading it more carefully later on. It certainly seems to conflict with Rothbard's scholarly and carefully reasoned works, developing from the non agression principle (NAP), and advocacy of Gustav de Molinari's ideas of competitive free market provision of defense and dispute resolution services.<br /><br />Even if we do take the Rothbard quote at face value, the unprovoked beating of Kelly Thomas undoubtedly represents "error" for which Rothbard recomends "[the assailands should be]subject of course to liability".Keithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-40314363642593999312014-01-06T03:25:44.850-07:002014-01-06T03:25:44.850-07:00Oh it is great that you agree with this. I know th...Oh it is great that you agree with this. I know that its hard to belive on this but u did and wrote a good post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51519386942747172122014-01-05T15:20:35.239-07:002014-01-05T15:20:35.239-07:00Rothbard also condemned what he called "The A...Rothbard also condemned what he called "The American soul-sickness" displayed in public enthusiasm for police violence against "hippies" and other non-conformists during the 1960s:<br /><br />"There are apparently tens of millions of God-fearing Americans who favor the genocidal destruction of hundreds of thousands or even millions of young people whose only crime is to persist in esthetic differentiation from the mass of the populace.<br /><br />The American soul-sickness is also manifest in the pervasive reaction to the problem of `violence' in America. Mention `violence' and the average person begins to fulminate against isolated muggers, against Negroes who burn down stores, and against students who blacken a few ashtrays in university buildings."<br /><br />"Massacre at People's Park," The Libertarian Forum, June 15, 1969<br /><br />Although incontestably brilliant, Rothbard succumbed to inconsistency.William N. Grigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-59742906610225235872014-01-05T15:07:01.448-07:002014-01-05T15:07:01.448-07:00Perhaps Fullerton's finest six were under the ...Perhaps Fullerton's finest six were under the spell of Murray N. Rothbard's "Right-Wing Populism". MNR wrote,<br /><br />"4. Take Back the Streets: Crush Criminals. And by this I mean, of course, not 'white collar criminals' or 'inside traders' but violent street criminals – robbers, muggers, rapists, murderers. Cops MUST BE UNLEASHED, and allowed to administer instant punishment, subject of course to liability when they are in error.<br /><br />5. Take Back the Streets: Get Rid of the Bums. Again: UNLEASH THE COPS to clear the streets of bums and vagrants. Where will they go? Who cares? Hopefully, they will disappear, that is, move from the ranks of the petted and cosseted bum class to the ranks of the productive members of society."<br /><br />So, the case of Kelly Thomas involves a few unleashed cops being taken to court to investigate the possibility that they were in error. Maybe they were in error, and maybe they weren't. The important thing, however, is that Fullerton's finest were unleashed first and subjected to liability later, as prescribed by Rothbard, alleged enemy of the state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-53193170781926633982014-01-04T03:49:45.757-07:002014-01-04T03:49:45.757-07:00Thank god ordinary citizens have the Thin Blue Lin...Thank god ordinary citizens have the Thin Blue Line to protect us from primitive savages who would bludgeon us to death on the flimsiest of pretexts. Right? <br /><br /><br />Bevin Chuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03212261042382022326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-56882039225695855792014-01-03T11:20:28.069-07:002014-01-03T11:20:28.069-07:00this story of a schizophrenic young man, by defini...this story of a schizophrenic young man, by definition out of touch with reality and not responsible, beaten to death by cops as he calls out for his father, makes me sad beyond what i can describe in words.<br /><br />the rage it evokes is beyond being capable of description by words, as well.<br /><br />that reflected power will not last forever. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />kirknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-26221358591711255362014-01-03T00:10:43.293-07:002014-01-03T00:10:43.293-07:00As beautifully and compellingly stated as always.As beautifully and compellingly stated as always.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09957565176607913202noreply@blogger.com